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Is that from a European paper ? :lol: It is crazy. Overthrow the existing political order ? Really ? Bernie maybe. The Republicans are all typical politicians, constantly changing positions and talking about making deals with the opposition. Cruz is the closest we have to an extreme right winger who thinks they have all the answers but quasi fascist ?? I don't think so. And his fellow candidates are liberal Republicans or highly centrist on most issues. :newspaper:

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SOOOO glad that so many veterans and veteran groups are telling Trump to take his fundraiser tonight for them and to pretty much shove it up his ass saying they do not want to be used as political props just because he doesn't want to join in on the debate tonight because he doesn't like the moderator.

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http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/267269-fbis-clinton-investigation-not-letting-up

FBI's Hillary Clinton email investigation not letting up

Six months after it began, the federal investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server shows no signs of slowing down.

Former FBI officials said the length of the probe is not unusual and speculated that a decision on whether to file charges against Clinton or her top aides could come later this year, during the heat of the general election campaign.

“I don’t know that there’s any magical cutoff date,” said Ron Hosko, the FBI’s former assistant director of the criminal investigative division and a 30-year veteran of the bureau.

For Democrats, the extended investigation has become a source of some anxiety, with Republicans gleefully raising the prospect of the Democratic presidential front-runner being indicted.

“It does give pause to Democrats who are concerned that there may be another shoe to drop down the road,” said Andrew Smith, a political science professor at the University of New Hampshire.

The government has been examining the former secretary of State's private email server since last July, when the inspector general for the intelligence community issued a security referral noting that classified information could have been mishandled.

That referral came months after Clinton acknowledged that she had exclusively used a personal email address housed on a private server during her tenure as secretary.

The scrutiny of her email practices has mounted since then, with more than 1,300 emails that passed through her server found to contain information that has since been classified, some at the highest levels.

The State Department and Clinton’s campaign contend that none of the information in the emails was classified when it was originally sent, and they have portrayed the matter as an interagency dispute.

The FBI and Justice Department have refused to discuss the details of their investigation and declined to comment to The Hill.

Officials have indicated that the bureau is not targeting Clinton specifically, however, but is investigating whether any information on her account was mishandled. Earlier this month, Fox News reported that the FBI had expanded its inquiry to examine how the State Department’s work intersected with the Clinton family foundation.

In December, FBI Director James Comey pledged that the probe would be “competent,” “honest” and “independent.”

“We don't give a rip about politics,” he told a Senate committee.

Yet the FBI is well aware of the high political stakes surrounding the investigation.

“I think the clock ticks louder every day,” said Hosko, who is the president of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. “I’m sure they’re all incredibly sensitive to it.”

President Obama has downplayed Clinton’s email setup, claiming that it was “not a situation in which America’s national security was endangered.”

Multiple former officials, lawmakers and lawyers have said they are confident that Comey, who is a Republican, will not let the presidential campaign influence the FBI’s investigation.

Yet many conservatives worry that even if the bureau comes up with sufficient evidence that Clinton broke the law, the Justice Department will decline to press charges. In response, some have pressed for a special prosecutor to be appointed, or for the FBI to pledge to release whatever evidence it digs up.

So far, Democrats have publicly shrugged of the threat of criminal action by painting it as a partisan attack from Republicans.

Clinton’s top rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), channeled the feelings of Democrats in October when he told Clinton during a debate that “the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails.”

But Clinton will have to confront the issue more forcefully if charges are filed.

And should Clinton win the nomination, the topic is sure to be an issue in the general election campaign — even if no indictment is handed down.

A fight over the emails then could weaken Democratic enthusiasm and turn off swing voters, some analysts predicted.

“More likely, it’s going to sour some of those folks in the middle,” said Doug Roscoe, a political science professor at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth.

“Having to be in the news talking about this investigation takes her off message,” he added.

It might not be Clinton herself who faces the music for any potential crime, however.

The former secretary of State did not appear to send most of the emails now marked classified. Instead, they were largely sent or forwarded to her by aides.

“It’d be a lot harder to make a criminal charge for having received [classified] information," said Bradley Moss, a lawyer who specializes in national security and protection of classified information

“If I’m in Clinton’s campaign, I’m more worried if am Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin or Jake Sullivan than if I’m Hillary Clinton,” Moss said. Mills, Abedin and Sullivan were all top aides of Clinton’s at the State Department. Abedin and Sullivan continue to hold high positions in Clinton’s presidential campaign.

“The sloppiness and the complete fundamental failure to comply with any aspect of operational and informational security is what puts them at risk,” Moss said. “You just can’t do that that many times and not expect to find yourself in trouble.”

Clinton’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment from The Hill.

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I hope Trump SLAYS in Iowa on Monday! He will destroy the GOP!

There's nothing to destroy in the way you possibly mean. That party has been changing for a while. The neocons "destroyed" the "religious right," (who themselves destroyed neoconservatives) and now the "populists" (under Trump) are "destroying" the so-called established neocons.

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Fucking clown wagon of sleazy/slimy right wing dolts who all ate each other up alive and melted away one by one lol! The Trump show couldn't handle it w/out him/ its STAR! LOL. Love how the Rethugs keep boasting about the 'numerous quality rock star candidates to choose from' lmao. Out of all of em I loathe the Trump and Kasich the least. He's def. the John Hunstman of this cycle though. The most experienced and successful political record and 'seems' least bat shit bible thumping crazy. Could actually tolerate it if he got the nom (very unlikely) or VP. Reason why the 'establishment' (aka the hard right wing now) despises Trump- they have NO idea what/who they're getting but do know 100% who'll be their bitches (*Rubio, Krispy, Cruz, Jeb! etc...). Looking very, very likely it'll be Trump but slimy opportunist Rubio from Floriduh scares me as much as Cruz. He's just 100x more likable, slick and prettier to the GP but every but as crazy nutty and cock/ass dildo etc..and uterus obsessed as Cruz! I think he may come in a solid second at the last minute in many of the first states.

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Fucking clown wagon of sleazy/slimy right wing dolts who all ate each other up alive and melted away one by one lol! The Trump show couldn't handle it w/out him/ its STAR! LOL. Love how the Rethugs keep boasting about the 'numerous quality rock star candidates to choose from' lmao. Out of all of em I loathe the Trump and Kasich the least. He's def. the John Hunstman of this cycle though. The most experienced and successful political record and 'seems' least bat shit bible thumping crazy. Could actually tolerate it if he got the nom (very unlikely) or VP. Reason why the 'establishment' (aka the hard right wing now) despises Trump- they have NO idea what/who they're getting but do know 100% who'll be their bitches (*Rubio, Krispy, Cruz, Jeb! etc...). Looking very, very likely it'll be Trump but slimy opportunist Rubio from Floriduh scares me as much as Cruz. He's just 100x more likable, slick and prettier to the GP but every but as crazy nutty and cock/ass dildo etc..and uterus obsessed as Cruz! I think he may come in a solid second at the last minute in many of the first states.

Who can help but love that badass face ?? ...and so racist and bigoted here, isn't he?? :lol:Not a Machavellian super genius but the more you see Trump in action he is obviously nobody's fool.

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