Donuts Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 some people here need to start getting laid... Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 You all here need to complain to Guy and Livenation... Most people have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 This is the 2nd date additions thread if you can't cope with news that the first dates tickets are not selling maybe this is not the thread for you. There are plenty of appreciation threads on here.... It's getting ridiculous the amount of disclaimers we have to post on this forum. It never used to be this way. At all. As I predicted in the UK chart thread and nearly got slaughtered because of it European tickets are selling like hot cakes (apart from the Danish show) as the prices are not too bad in Europe however the USA tickets will flag and struggle. I also agree that the tour should've started down under could you imagine all the hype there would've been! Oh lord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Most people have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimos Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 This is the 2nd date additions thread if you can't cope with news that the first dates tickets are not selling maybe this is not the thread for you. There are plenty of appreciation threads on here.... It's getting ridiculous the amount of disclaimers we have to post on this forum. It never used to be this way. At all. As I predicted in the UK chart thread and nearly got slaughtered because of it European tickets are selling like hot cakes (apart from the Danish show) as the prices are not too bad in Europe however the USA tickets will flag and struggle. I also agree that the tour should've started down under could you imagine all the hype there would've been! Oh lord! Exactly. These snide comments about "getting laid" etc. are very annoying. People have been truthfully pointing out that ticket sales are slower than before and discussing possible reasons for this. I don't think the tone has been particularly hysterical or doom-mongering either. There's no point in pretending it's still 2006. I'm sure everything will come together eventually by the time the tour starts, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ziggy Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I'm sure everything will come together eventually by the time the tour starts, anyway. This. The US ticket prices are apparently being quietly lowered as we speak, and the promotion she is yet to do for the tour will make those tickets sell for sure. However, as you pointed out, it isn't 2006 when it comes to both her popularity and the world economy. She has an uphill climb to do from the ashes of the MDNA Tour (and, in fact, the whole era) but there's little doubt that she'll make it. Edited March 14, 2015 by ziggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Exactly. These snide comments about "getting laid" etc. are very annoying. People have been truthfully pointing out that ticket sales are slower than before and discussing possible reasons for this. I don't think the tone has been particularly hysterical or doom-mongering either. There's no point in pretending it's still 2006. I'm sure everything will come together eventually by the time the tour starts, anyway. Yup very annoying. Madonna doesn't need bodyguards on her own fan forum. And her bodyguards Paul and Alessandro do a fantastic job as it is anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyme? Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I'm sure Live Nation knows exactly what they are doing. They have computer algorithms that tell them exactly how to price tickets. These prices arent just made up out of nowhere. Plus, I'm sure they and ticketmaster are creating hype by not releasing all tickets, and selling "resell" tickets at insane prices. I've never purchased a madonna ticket when it was first sold and never had a problems buying tickets weeks later for cheaper. I still havent purchased a rebel heart ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I did! I sent several emails to Live Nation about the sound problems at S&S Wembley. They refused to acknowledge that were any problems. They simply weren't interested. I hear ya, if we keep complaining, just might prick up their ears. At least she's not playing Hyde park and Millennium stadium cause those 2 had huge complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 The thing is that Jyske Bank Boxen is the only indoor arena in Denmark that is big enough for M's show. The only other possible venue would be the Parken stadium. And the last time Madonna played there (MDNA Tour), she sold only 29K ticket (60% of the tickets available). So I can see why they wanted to avoid Parken this time around. I know that's the official LN reported figure, but a staff member there told me on the night that they were expecting around 36K (I remember he had a sheet of paper with him with "PAX - 36" something or other on it, and he confirmed that this was the number they were expecting. Aside from that back section that was closed off (which shouldn't have been closed off, since they were directly opposite the stage), the rest seemed pretty full, so 60% sounds very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunterlas Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Madonna doesn't need bodyguards on her own fan forum. She doesnt need aspiring managers nor marketing specialists either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Routa Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 This. The US ticket prices are apparently being quietly lowered as we speak, and the promotion she is yet to do for the tour will make those tickets sell for sure. However, as you pointed out, it isn't 2006 when it comes to both her popularity and the world economy. She has an uphill climb to do from the ashes of the MDNA Tour (and, in fact, the whole era) but there's little doubt that she'll make it. Indeed indeed I wouldn't worry too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I remember there were widespread reports about sales being slow in the US last time, and Arthur Fogel had to release a statement outlining how pleased they were with the sales. I'm sure it's standard practice in the industry to put all tickets on sale initially for maximum prices (to lure in those who are willing and able to pay any price), then prices drop as time passes (when tickets don't sell out instantly). Superbowl gave her a MASSIVE boost in the US last time, especially the fact that she performed three of her biggest hits, but there's no such push this time around. Having said all of this, I have no problem with people discussing how quickly/slowly tickets are selling. It happens every time she tours, and with each subsequent tour, we seem to have more and more data available to us, which just increases the points available for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymrdj1 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 And I don't want to dump on a certain popular target, but U2's arena pricing took a BIG spike this tour...and who is the common element with them and Madonna? hmmmm... Exactly... By the way Is it the longest she stuck with the same manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymrdj1 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 The stupid article does not mention the prices! Who else than madonna charges more than $1500 for a floor ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 I remember there were widespread reports about sales being slow in the US last time, and Arthur Fogel had to release a statement outlining how pleased they were with the sales. I'm sure it's standard practice in the industry to put all tickets on sale initially for maximum prices (to lure in those who are willing and able to pay any price), then prices drop as time passes (when tickets don't sell out instantly). Superbowl gave her a MASSIVE boost in the US last time, especially the fact that she performed three of her biggest hits, but there's no such push this time around. Having said all of this, I have no problem with people discussing how quickly/slowly tickets are selling. It happens every time she tours, and with each subsequent tour, we seem to have more and more data available to us, which just increases the points available for discussion. Wasn't it Europe that was kinda rumored to be slow? and he mentioned that. And there was a degree of truth to that even though she did fine. Even if the usa was rumored to sell slow during Mdna, it was ridiculous becuz we all saw with our own eyes how quickly the us tickets sold out compared to Europe. This time it's the U.S. That is moving slowly, and it's not rumored, it's easy to see, since I remember how Mdna fared at this stage in the usa pretty well... It was only 2012 after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
material_boy Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 This is the 2nd date additions thread if you can't cope with news that the first dates tickets are not selling maybe this is not the thread for you. There are plenty of appreciation threads on here.... It's getting ridiculous the amount of disclaimers we have to post on this forum. It never used to be this way. At all. As I predicted in the UK chart thread and nearly got slaughtered because of it European tickets are selling like hot cakes (apart from the Danish show) as the prices are not too bad in Europe however the USA tickets will flag and struggle. I also agree that the tour should've started down under could you imagine all the hype there would've been! Oh lord! It's insane to act as though talking about ticket sales is somehow inappropriate or slandering the queen. No one here is saying the tour is flopping or that the tickets will remain unsold, just pointing out that sales are slower -- much slower -- and asking why. What's the harm? I think Nightshade hit the nail on the head with his analysis, especially points one and two: I think it's a combination of things: 1. Tickets are expensive and she has saturated so many markets time and time again. 2. She kept people waiting so late last time. Who wants to see her on a work night now when she might not come on until almost midnight? 3. The new album is off to a weak start (lead single tanked almost everywhere) - there isn't much incentive to listen to new material and everyone knows now that she doesn't focus on old hits as much. All these things were bound to affect the sales. Of course, I always want M to be successful, but what did she and Live Nation expect? They really should've kicked the tour off in Australia or SE Asia. The tickets would've sold quick and created some hype. I'd be surprised if most of the North America dates had second shows added (any time soon, anyway). They've blocked off way, way too many seats for VIP. Look at how many seats they put online for VIP presale in the U.S. dates: It's most of the floor and first level. You simply can't sell that many tickets for $750 on the floor and no one -- no one -- is paying $600 for a first level seat just to get a swag bag. Also, they seriously underestimated how much the late start times on MDNA hurt her. It got her some bad press, but the real problem was the word of mouth. For every previous tour, people were telling me how upset they were that they couldn't get a ticket or had a scheduling conflict -- this year, those same people are asking me "You're going? Wasn't the last tour a disaster?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 What's scary is that those people's perception of the most successful tour of 2012 worldwide is that it was "a disaster"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 What's scary is that those people's perception of the most successful tour of 2012 worldwide is that it was "a disaster"!! That's what bad PR will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 And U2 just added an eighth date at MSG. Maybe Madonna should give her next album away through Google. (No I'm not serious, just a bit of gallows humor) Rock bands most of the time do well in touring, look at Bon jovi. And they do sing their old hits which M doesn't that much. But yes she needs rather Live nation need to lower the prices and M needs to realise GP wants more old hits aswell as new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Well I did my bit of complaining on Guy's IG and Liz's IG. The more complaints on both accounts the better. Maybe complain more on Liz's cause I feel she tends to listen and she is PR. I complained about prices, bad PR, lateness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 http://nypost.com/2015/03/13/new-madonna-tour-sales-more-sticky-than-sweet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanLongoria Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 She doesnt need aspiring managers nor marketing specialists either... Resorting to personal insults because people don't share your opinion is just damn right stupid. We've been discussing marketing strategies on Nation since I've been on here. It's all a part of the fun and madness of it all. If were not "allowed" to discuss her tours, albums, performances what would be the point of the forum? And if it offends you to the point where you have to resort to insulting someone then start a thread about how well the tour is going. Simple. At the end of the day were all fans but it's getting very frustrating where people who have been posting here for years have to put disclaimers in their posts because others get offended at the slightest thing. It's worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 well, at least they used a beautiful picture of hers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Yeah I think the days where people get taken to task for everything they say should be over now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocco Papa Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 It doesn't surprise me, because her tickets are so expensive. The economy is in the toilet, people don't have jobs, and they just can't afford it. I'm sure if her tickets were affordable, the shows would all be sold out like usual. People want to see Madonna, make no mistake about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotos8 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 that's good journalism ,reporting poor ticket sales more than 6 months before a tour starts. Bravoo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiggleM Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Resorting to personal insults because people don't share your opinion is just damn right stupid. We've been discussing marketing strategies on Nation since I've been on here. It's all a part of the fun and madness of it all. If were not "allowed" to discuss her tours, albums, performances what would be the point of the forum? And if it offends you to the point where you have to resort to insulting someone then start a thread about how well the tour is going. Simple. At the end of the day were all fans but it's getting very frustrating where people who have been posting here for years have to put disclaimers in their posts because others get offended at the slightest thing. It's worrying. So much of this. If you care about something passionately and see it isn't going as well as it can then clearly you're going to have your own ideas of how it could go better and what to do to improve the situation. Some people seem to enjoy arguing for the sake of it. At the moment I can't envision her adding many second dates at all But I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Yeah I think the days where people get taken to task for everything they say should be over now. I genuinely think everyone was so caught up in the stan wars era and that whole Gaga obsession that it's filtered into the Madonna fan base and it is now acceptable to be "dragging" one another. The whole ATRL mentality is very rife nowadays. Were all fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts