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Pedro    0
7 hours ago, loowee said:

I think the major issue I have with the song is the anti-climatic melody of the chorus, which seems to be a trend in pop music. But songs like this usually have lower burn out rate for me, once I get used to the monotonic melody I'll be bopping this hard. 

Like Turn up the radio? I find this song exactly as you mentioned. Maybe Madonna was ahead of the trend once again? 

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While I agree that this lacks the instant punch from her previous lead singles, there's a maturity about it that showcases her ear for pop music. Which I think Katy understands more than any other pop artist probably since Madonna. 

If the rest of the album is like this, then count me as very excited. 

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vocalism    0
7 hours ago, rocknrolla said:

Haven't heard the song, but "chained to the rhythm?"  Oh, dear.  And she's dyed her hair blond, that was one thing she had going for her that made her stand out that she was a brunette.

I'm thinking she's going to struggle with the transition into an adult pop star after all.  Beyoncé and Madonna made it seem so effortless.

Transition to an adult pop star? She was never teen pop singer. Unless you're just talking about growing older? She already did that with "Teenage Dream," "Wide Awake," "Dark Horse"...

I like the new song, lyrically and musically. It's unexpected and totally worthy of repeat plays. I basically had it on loop on Spotify last night.

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sotos8    0

It's my first song of hers i actually like but when the rap in the middle of pop songs is gonna stop? it's beyond tired

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I really like it! Can't wait to hear the rest of the album! 

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vocalism    0

When is CTTR going to overtake MR on iTunes though? Does it usually take this long for a song to reach #1?

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shoecool    0

I love it, and the lyrics are so on point. Hope there's a good video attached to it, she's the only one of the pop princesses I root for. 

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Pedro    0

She's #1 in Mexico. Gaga is nowhere to be seen. I bought my copy to help the cause ūüėā

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shoecool    0
3 minutes ago, Pedro said:

She's #1 in Mexico. Gaga is nowhere to be seen. I bought my copy to help the cause ūüėā

Hahahaha, so did I! And streaming right now :IMG_1564:

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Pedro    0
2 minutes ago, shoecool said:

Hahahaha, so did I! And streaming right now :IMG_1564:

:thumbsup:

Plus I like the song. The other one i liked was This is how we do. 

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rocknrolla    0
45 minutes ago, vocalism said:

Transition to an adult pop star? She was never teen pop singer. Unless you're just talking about growing older? She already did that with "Teenage Dream," "Wide Awake," "Dark Horse"...

I like the new song, lyrically and musically. It's unexpected and totally worthy of repeat plays. I basically had it on loop on Spotify last night.

I was thinking about the transition into making more adult contemporary type music.  Plus, I always assume her fanbase is mostly teen girls. 

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karbatal    0

Her fanbase is very different.  Last week a straight handball player I know was remembering her super bowl and raving about it .  At work different people from different ages like her. She's not a teenage artist at all.  She appeals straight guys and girls,  gays,  mature people,  kids... 

I wish I was a fan :lol:. But there's something about her that doesn't inspire me at all.  Good singles she has,  though. 

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vocalism    0

Yeah, pretty certain Katy's fan demographic is what M's was in the '80s. As she gets more political and older I'm sure it will continue to get gayer, but right now I think she appeals to women and men, gay and straight, young and old. White ones at least!

And I see no reason why she should move toward making "adult contemporary type music." That's always what she's made to begin with. All of her songs get played on AC radio.

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loowee    0

Katy Perry (and Rihanna) have a very diverse fanbase and casual listeners, which is why their albums never debut will huge numbers but sell good in the long run. They don't have an obsessive stanbase like Gaga and Britney. 

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mnino    0
11 hours ago, Ciccone's Cheeks said:

 

Cool. This is the anti JUST DANCE anthem. If one could call it an anthem...

You see, the Obama years were marked by a certain escapism, by partying your troubles away. No wonder Gaghis Khan thrived at that time. While the country was going through the great recession, Gaga, Kesha, LMFAO, The Jersey Shore cast and the likes were telling everyone to just dance, to throw their hands up in the air, to not care about being young and broke as long as you're having a good time or having "t-shirt time," or "snookin' for love," or being "a blast in a glass..." 

I think everybody realizes now that the party is over and I think that these lyrics cleverly denounce that escapism. The very thing that helped many cope in the past made them oblivious to what was happening in real life. Ironically, Ms Perry's music is still chained to that rhythm but her eyes have been apparently opened. 

Sonically, she has not moved beyond a certain comfort zone but if this is just the launching pad for a more pointed commentary on her life and the world around her then I am looking forward for what's to come. I hope she is able to unchain herself and find the freedom to grow as an artist. 

I will be listening.

 

 

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1 hour ago, rocknrolla said:

I was thinking about the transition into making more adult contemporary type music.  Plus, I always assume her fanbase is mostly teen girls. 

Yes, I don't really understand your point either. She was always a bit more mature than your average teen pop star. One of my favorite songs by her Circle the Drain is about dealing with her boyfriend's drug addiction. 

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jaron    0

today is really a beautiful day, on the one side Texas and now Katys jam !

 

I love it, very smooth poppy song. Maybe the chorus could be better, its not the typical building of a chorus but still

I love it ! Go Katy <3

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billiejean    0
24 minutes ago, mnino said:

Cool. This is the anti JUST DANCE anthem. If one could call it an anthem...

You see, the Obama years were marked by a certain escapism, by partying your troubles away. No wonder Gaghis Khan thrived at that time. While the country was going through the great recession, Gaga, Kesha, LMFAO, The Jersey Shore cast and the likes were telling everyone to just dance, to throw their hands up in the air, to not care about being young and broke as long as you're having a good time or having "t-shirt time," or "snookin' for love," or being "a blast in a glass..." 

I think everybody realizes now that the party is over and I think that these lyrics cleverly denounce that escapism. The very thing that helped many cope in the past made them oblivious to what was happening in real life. Ironically, Ms Perry's music is still chained to that rhythm but her eyes have been apparently opened. 

Sonically, she has not moved beyond a certain comfort zone but if this is just the launching pad for a more pointed commentary on her life and the world around her then I am looking forward for what's to come. I hope she is able to unchain herself and find the freedom to grow as an artist. 

I will be listening.

 

 

For years pop stars have been telling us to party and forget our worries, yet the decline of quality and genres over the past 10 years has been abysmal, the era of albums and longevity is dead, it's all about Youtube, GIFS and iTunes.

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50 minutes ago, mnino said:

Cool. This is the anti JUST DANCE anthem. If one could call it an anthem...

You see, the Obama years were marked by a certain escapism, by partying your troubles away. No wonder Gaghis Khan thrived at that time. While the country was going through the great recession, Gaga, Kesha, LMFAO, The Jersey Shore cast and the likes were telling everyone to just dance, to throw their hands up in the air, to not care about being young and broke as long as you're having a good time or having "t-shirt time," or "snookin' for love," or being "a blast in a glass..." 

I think everybody realizes now that the party is over and I think that these lyrics cleverly denounce that escapism. The very thing that helped many cope in the past made them oblivious to what was happening in real life. Ironically, Ms Perry's music is still chained to that rhythm but her eyes have been apparently opened. 

Sonically, she has not moved beyond a certain comfort zone but if this is just the launching pad for a more pointed commentary on her life and the world around her then I am looking forward for what's to come. I hope she is able to unchain herself and find the freedom to grow as an artist. 

I will be listening.

 

 

Good points. I always kind of thought Obama was like an updated Carter/ disco era. lol Instead of 'disco' you had those other things happening you mentioned. EDM/Kesha/Gaga/ Beiber etc etc.. became like the new Village People and pop culture (Jersey Shore and the like) became more dumb down and frivolous than ever. Due to that, many people got stuck inside a clueless bubble. Technology DEF contributed to this. Very few saw or cared about 'what' was going on in those Brexit states. And how angry/neglected people in between NY and LA felt.

While I basically agree w/ them on almost everything the Dems (starting w/ Obama) became a heavily elite/celeb/Hollywood party only zoned in on big blue cities and those kinds of people. Obama happened after Bush (useless wars, arrogant, typical DC backwards cabinet, 9/11, market crash). Carter happened after Nixon (Vietnam, lots of division and anger, major racial tensions, corruption etc),,Afraid  we're back there again but maybe 10x worse. This all feels like a low point from each decade of the 20th century :/ * Perfect time for M to drop an aggressive, infectious DARK guitar driven pop/rock jam asap! lol 

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1 hour ago, billiejean said:

For years pop stars have been telling us to party and forget our worries, yet the decline of quality and genres over the past 10 years has been abysmal, the era of albums and longevity is dead, it's all about Youtube, GIFS and iTunes.

2011/2012 was like only exception with Adele. Quality voice, music. No fake titties, not a size 2, TMZ sleazy scandals, gossip, rehab, nothing pretentious, cheap tired gimmicks, no wearing meat at award shows, hanging from strings, making stupid deranged faces, leaked pornos, etc etc...The music biz didn't take the hint which is why nothing like her has happened since. Notice it's still the same corporate shitty singles machine sung by Disney bimbo robots that it's been since about 2000. Still basically minimal true album/ non puppet artists. Don't even think of going there with Toilet Swifter lol 

All that said, while I still feel the songs production is hollow, lazy and a major missed opportunity (that's like the only universal 'criticism' I'm reading and hearing) the damn song is going in loops around my head! lol Wouldn't buy it but sounded nice on the radio and like most of her songs, def. wouldn't turn it off. I'm very curious to see where this is at by later tonight and esp tomorrow. If it's not leading by at least 20 to 30% means it may be sign people aren't feeling it. Again this is Katy Perry not Hallie Steinfeld lol 

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Kilt    0
35 minutes ago, billiejean said:

For years pop stars have been telling us to party and forget our worries, yet the decline of quality and genres over the past 10 years has been abysmal, the era of albums and longevity is dead, it's all about Youtube, GIFS and iTunes.

SO TRUE! Today it's all about getting famous at the speed of light and staying in the spotlight for one hot minute.

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mnino    0
49 minutes ago, Ciccone's Cheeks said:

Good points. I always kind of thought Obama was like an updated Carter/ disco era. lol Instead of 'disco' you had those other things happening you mentioned. EDM/Kesha/Gaga/ Beiber etc etc.. became like the new Village People and pop culture (Jersey Shore and the like) became more dumb down and frivolous than ever. Due to that, many people got stuck inside a clueless bubble. Technology DEF contributed to this. Very few saw or cared about 'what' was going on in those Brexit states. And how angry/neglected people in between NY and LA felt.

While I basically agree w/ them on almost everything the Dems (starting w/ Obama) became a heavily elite/celeb/Hollywood party only zoned in on big blue cities and those kinds of people. Obama happened after Bush (useless wars, arrogant, typical DC backwards cabinet, 9/11, market crash). Carter happened after Nixon (Vietnam, lots of division and anger, major racial tensions, corruption etc),,Afraid  we're back there again but maybe 10x worse. This all feels like a low point from each decade of the 20th century :/ * Perfect time for M to drop an aggressive, infectious DARK guitar driven pop/rock jam asap! lol 

Not trying to derail Katy's thread with history and politics.... but you have a point with the Carter/Disco comparisons. If Bush was Nixon, Carter was Obama then Trump is Reagan... and the Reagan era gave us Madonna! However, it wasn't until the 90's that music took a turn from the excesses of the 80's to the "realness" of the grunge movement. Let's see it if this is a cycle or just coincidence. Thanks for your insight. 

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JWAD    0

I like it but I agree that the production seems flat. I am just waiting on a great remix

I'm just hoping M turns up on her album!

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