nick00 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 ^ The Atlantic writer's story is another example of the extremely annoying and over sensitive PC police that's ruining the left. Best just to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glindathegood Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 ^ The Atlantic writer's story is another example of the extremely annoying and over sensitive PC police that's ruining the left. Best just to ignore. I agree. But I don't see how they get the cords are demeaning. If they were demeaning, she would also be demeaning herself since she has them on her face. I would think it would be pretty obvious to anyone that the cords are supposed to represent the status quo and mainstream society trying to constrict someone from expressing themselves. Thus, rebels rebel against the restrictive bindings of society and overcome them with heart. But I guess these writers are seeing them as some kind of sexual S&M cords. I don't see how anyone who is intelligent couldn't understand the meaning of the strings in relation to rebel heart. I think it's pretty obvious. I don't think you have to have some advanced degree in art appreciation or critical theory to get that. And I don't get the comment an artist who has made various forms of "black music". Yes, she has done some songs influenced by R&B, hip hop and soul, what most people would consider black music. But I would say the predominant genre of music people associate her with is dance and electronic music, which is not generally associated with black people or seen as black music, If it's associated with any minority group, it's associated with the gay community. Personally, I don't think there should be such a thing as black music though, just good and bad music. But it's not like she's Eminem or someone who does predominately or exclusively a style of music mostly associated with black people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Above Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I agree. But I don't see how they get the cords are demeaning. If they were demeaning, she would also be demeaning herself since she has them on her face. I would think it would be pretty obvious to anyone that the cords are supposed to represent the status quo and mainstream society trying to constrict someone from expressing themselves. Thus, rebels rebel against the restrictive bindings of society and overcome them with heart. But I guess these writers are seeing them as some kind of sexual S&M chords. I don't see how anyone who is intelligent couldn't understand the meaning of the strings in relation to rebel heart. I think it's pretty obvious. I don't think you have to have some advanced degree in art appreciation or critical theory to get that. They would have to stop for a minute and THINK. That's asking a lot of these people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messiahxxx Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 "I heard the angels whisper to me....look for the sun. He is the one. #Messiah" Do we think this confirms Messiah will be on the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick00 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I agree. But I don't see how they get the cords are demeaning. If they were demeaning, she would also be demeaning herself since she has them on her face. I would think it would be pretty obvious to anyone that the cords are supposed to represent the status quo and mainstream society trying to constrict someone from expressing themselves. Thus, rebels rebel against the restrictive bindings of society and overcome them with heart. But I guess these writers are seeing them as some kind of sexual S&M cords. I don't see how anyone who is intelligent couldn't understand the meaning of the strings in relation to rebel heart. I think it's pretty obvious. I don't think you have to have some advanced degree in art appreciation or critical theory to get that. And I don't get the comment an artist who has made various forms of "black music". Yes, she has done some songs influenced by R&B, hip hop and soul, what most people would consider black music. But I would say the predominant genre of music people associate her with is dance and electronic music, which is not generally associated with black people or seen as black music, If it's associated with any minority group, it's associated with the gay community. Personally, I don't think there should be such a thing as black music though, just good and bad music. But it's not like she's Eminem or someone who does predominately or exclusively a style of music mostly associated with black people. Agree it's disappointing that there appears to be significant amount of people who did not understand at all the possible underlying messages of M posts. Like others have pointed out already, she included her mom's pic and her friend Jean Baptiste with the cord on their faces and she obviously did not want to demean them. I know it's already old news, but M would never purposely offend or degrade these specific african americans who hold deep meaning for people. It does seem some writers are almost looking for something to be enraged about or at least it appears that way on the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andra Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 "I heard the angels whisper to me....look for the sun. He is the one. #Messiah" Do we think this confirms Messiah will be on the album? I'm positive that all the songs that she tags will be on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensch Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 So she's heading back to NYC tonight!!!! Tomorrow she'll be back to work!!! Filming the video in the next three days!!! I think it's safe to say Messiah/Revolution/Rebel Heart will make the cut based on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moka Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 The Real Baller! #unapologeticbitch Who is it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messiahxxx Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Now get to werk bitch! If she films the video this week then Traditional was right again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxcatcher Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 M tagged National Geographic. I'm Speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moka Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 M tagged National Geographic. Probably another racist re-appropriation. Someone should warn the Daily Mail, Pierce Morgan, Wendy Williams and Roger Friedman so they can warn the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Now get to werk bitch! If she films the video this week then Traditional was right again... Guy said the same thing so big whoopdie-fuckin-do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensch Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Now get to werk bitch! If she films the video this week then Traditional was right again... Everyone knows she's filming the video this week. She has to. I bet the outfits are all ready and the concept is completely ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 "My new Boyfriend! Mr. Marmoset Hard and Silent!#peopledontknowthings" -Madonna she'll het heat from PETA next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTY PIG Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Guardian writer Nesrine Malik just wrote another scathing article about Madonna's supposed "cultural appropriation" only she probably thought she would receive overwhelming support when in actual fact the MAJORITY of the comments have said what an idiot this journalist is and that Madonna is guilty of absolutely nothing. Oh well, nothing like bad press as they say sorry if that was already posted about. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/06/madonna-cultural-appropriation-cliche-iggy-azalea?CMP=fb_ot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 This appropriation thing really annoys me. Does Beyonce appropriate swedish culture when she bleaches and straighten her hair ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Heartbreaker Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I try to avoid articles on Madonna in the press (online and in print) as the general tone is negative and degrading. More often, the pictures of Madonna are unflattering, to further shine a bad light. We live in a world where there is a perverse thrill in putting people down, demonizing them and creating a sense of unworthiness about their craft. I know Madonna is beyond all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Guardian writer Nesrine Malik just wrote another scathing article about Madonna's supposed "cultural appropriation" only she probably thought she would receive overwhelming support when in actual fact the MAJORITY of the comments have said what an idiot this journalist is and that Madonna is guilty of absolutely nothing. Oh well, nothing like bad press as they say sorry if that was already posted about. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/06/madonna-cultural-appropriation-cliche-iggy-azalea?CMP=fb_ot I think people are becoming more and more annoyed at the Cultural Appropriation warriors and are now speaking out. People who hate Madonna will agree only because they are putting Madonna down but the over-whelming majority of people will be thinking this is too stupid and idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 And in a few months, when the Queen is on top and getting rave reviews, these same publications will do stories about her amazing career and totally kiss her ass. It ebbs and flows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozo1 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think people are becoming more and more annoyed at the Cultural Appropriation warriors and are now speaking out. People who hate Madonna will agree only because they are putting Madonna down but the over-whelming majority of people will be thinking this is too stupid and idiotic. Indeed. That article is such an embarrassment to anyone with a passing knowledge of M. and reality. She'll always be a target for people trying to make a name for themselves on the coattails of her legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 These websites and papers would give their left nut and tit for a Madonna exclusive and they all know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloane Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Stop complaining about this 5 day old nontroversy and get happy that M's about to film a new video! These are exciting times I hope we get hints in the next week or so about hair/clothes, etc ...IG pics?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adirondak Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 And in a few months, when the Queen is on top and getting rave reviews, these same publications will do stories about her amazing career and totally kiss her ass. It ebbs and flows. Yes - I've always thought that one of the reasons for M's overwhelming sustained success has been that she's always managed to be both top dawg and the underdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yes - I've always thought that one of the reasons for M's overwhelming sustained success has been that she's always managed to be both top dawg and the underdog. In an old Dave Marsh book I have called Rock Lists, he has lists of Artists Critics Can't Get Enough Of, Artists Critics Love to Hate, and Artists Critics Mistakenly Ignore. He put Madonna on all three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 the comments on the guardian article are very refreshing actually. they're pointing out what we've been saying for days. i always thought incorporating other cultures in art is a good thing, all of a sudden boring PC social media warriors wanted to stop it. what are we supposed to do without being inspired by other cultures anyway? music (and so many other things) would still be stuck at the very beginning if it wasn't for artists being inspired by one another.. artists wouldn't be able to be politically outspoken about things. we can't do the Salsa or eat food or enjoy art from cultures that aren't our own? one even said tiger woods can't play golf anymore because it's from scotland "cultural appropriation!!!!" i can't believe they're even trying to make this a thing at all. its just way too ridiculous for words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasticlimbo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 "Rest before the last day of mobbing!#wegohardorwegohome" "Strike a Pose! #skifashion" "Goodbye Paradise! Back to werk! #livingforlove " She's going back home!! Back to work!! Slay Queen , SLAY !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasticlimbo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 "#rebelhearts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-queen Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) These websites and papers would give their left nut and tit for a Madonna exclusive and they all know it Yep. They can't stop saying how bad she is. They're as obsessed with her as us in their own twisted way. Edited January 7, 2015 by the-queen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 They know madonna means hits, ratings, or sales of a magazine ^^^ THE MADONNA EFFECT :bows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Firstly, who the fuck is Wendy? Second, is she saying that it would have been OK for Madonna to post pictures of only white people? Now THAT is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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