Sloane Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 In all honesty though, nobody cares for your ignore list. I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPowered Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 André 3000 Frank Ocean Emile Haynie Rick Nowels Nile Rodgers I'd be here for an experimental R&B, funk, alternative pop/rock record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacHarris Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 This threads still active? Let's see why. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyHigh76 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 André 3000 Frank Ocean Emile Haynie Rick Nowels Nile Rodgers I'd be here for an experimental R&B, funk, alternative pop/rock record. Interesting choices.If she wanted to go that route (R&B),I think Pharrell and DangerMouse would be cool choices,too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TearsInHeaven Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 having reciprocally expressed mutual interest in collaborating together, i guess we may assume that on her next album we will maybe get some collaboration with the Daft Punk, at least on the lead single. I don't know if i want a full album with them though, but i will obviously piss my pants if it happens. I would love her to work with Bruno Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreeyen Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 This threads still active? Let's see why. ... +1,000,000 tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's sad Madonna's blind asslicker Nazi fans try to silence constructive criticism of her and ban the truthers. Ever heard of a song called Express Yourself? Madonna's artistry has taken a nosedive over the years. She will win her fans back and respect from critics when she fully and seriously devotes herself to music again. You are still here. I dare you to write a positive post. OMG WHAT THE FUCK HAS HAPPENED TO THIS PLACE? What we need is a grand FLUSH Chelle, this is nothing compared to the forums that a lot of them originally post at . And I am not just talking about Madonnatribe. It is actually considered wrong to not be ultra critical of Madonna and to so many of them if you like anything after Ray of Light you are not a true fan because you are not critical etc. Drives me insane and why I have decided to never post at other Madonna forums from now on. Being critical is fine but when post after post is just attacking Madonna, you know you have to get out. Madonnanation is for people that actually like Madonna, can be critical but not bash her relentlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Rudimental: young British lads with some cool songs and interesting lyrics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I've never been keen on these "personal pizza" threads; picking your own producers. But let's turn the thread around and focus on it's original intention. I haven't done this in a long time. But here a few of my fantasies: DFA Photek Headcleanr Air Basement Jaxx Trent Reznor/Atticus Ross I'm not opposed to her working with Orbit again. I've always enjoyed the tracks they've done together. I wouldn't if she went down that ambient techo-60's psychedelic vibe again. Bring on Sasha and Moby for the ride too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkbysix Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Vocalism, I'm sorry, but I find it offensive that a fan would say things like "someone who claims herself as an artist shouldn't be commended for writing a third of the album" I don't mean to sound obsessed with gaga but her last album artpop had a FLOOD of producers on the writing credits, but as far as I know nobody has criticized her for it or tried to say anything about her not being an artist. I just think it's slightly hypocritical because madonna has never ever in her life made an album where somebody has completely done EVERYTHING For her. It just does not set well with me that a so called fan would make these kind of remarks, because her process for an album has slightly changed! Think about all the singers out here who write NOTHING on their albums and just rerecord the demos given to them! Madonna at least contributes to the process in her albums, she always has! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 OMG WHAT THE FUCK HAS HAPPENED TO THIS PLACE? What we need is a grand FLUSH MADONNATRIBE INVADED MNATION! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevermind Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The bottom line is that the quality of Madonna's songwriting has varied wildly over the years. She had a long stretch of high quality lyrics, and they started to get a little embarrassing after she had Lourdes. ROL gets a pass because of the music and production and perceived "introspection," but "Little Star," "Swim," etc. are pretty lame lyrically. Obviously people will disagree, but those two have always stuck out to me. Even "Nothing Really Matters" is weak lyrically. It's made up for by Pat's incredible melody and WO's fantastic production. Unfortunately, I think it's a natural progression. In the '90s she was surrounded by cutting edge young people, the club scene, reading Walt Whitman and watching obscure indie films. As she's gotten older, she's been surrounded by Kaballah, little kids, etc. That's GOT to affect your writing. People evolve and change, and sometimes get less sophisticated in many respects. Another example: Imagine the movies Madonna would have made in the 90s. They're probably be really subversive, button-pushing, and provocative. Now what kind of movie does she make? W.E. Pretty conservative and reflective of her worldview of privilege and celebrity. I won't mention secretprojectrevolution, which was discussed at length when we all saw it, but there are examples in that too. Who was it who said it's like she's talking to children now and not her equals? That's a great example. This is such a great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Vocalism, I'm sorry, but I find it offensive that a fan would say things like "someone who claims herself as an artist shouldn't be commended for writing a third of the album" I don't mean to sound obsessed with gaga but her last album artpop had a FLOOD of producers on the writing credits, but as far as I know nobody has criticized her for it or tried to say anything about her not being an artist. I just think it's slightly hypocritical because madonna has never ever in her life made an album where somebody has completely done EVERYTHING For her. It just does not set well with me that a so called fan would make these kind of remarks, because her process for an album has slightly changed! Think about all the singers out here who write NOTHING on their albums and just rerecord the demos given to them! Madonna at least contributes to the process in her albums, she always has! I'm not sure this was intended for me, since I've never said anything remotely like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkbysix Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I'm not sure this was intended for me, since I've never said anything remotely like that. I was talking about theunseenhand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVC Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I've never been keen on these "personal pizza" threads; picking your own producers. But let's turn the thread around and focus on it's original intention. I haven't done this in a long time. But here a few of my fantasies: DFA Photek Headcleanr Air Basement Jaxx Trent Reznor/Atticus Ross I'm not opposed to her working with Orbit again. I've always enjoyed the tracks they've done together. I wouldn't if she went down that ambient techo-60's psychedelic vibe again. Bring on Sasha and Moby for the ride too. Hello 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVC Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 MADONNATRIBE INVADED MNATION!gross!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Not4Pussies Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 She needs to collaborate with Blood Orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I was talking about theunseenhand! Ah, gotcha. Well, to each his own. I've always said Madonna's fanbase is one of the most diverse, with lots of different opinions and preferences. There's room for everyone. I personally value artists who write their own material, and the fact that Madonna seems to be outsourcing more and more bums me out. It's not that big a deal, though, since she makes every song her own. However, if you're going to outsource, it better be fucking great. And something like GGW and "Revolver" are two examples that seem pointless to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 MADONNATRIBE INVADED MNATION! it seems as such and it's very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaron Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 > Babyface and produce some beautiful 90s like ballads, e.g. Inside of me, TAB, You´ll see etc... > Mirvais, 1-2 french house music > sia > bjork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnseenHand Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Vocalism, I'm sorry, but I find it offensive that a fan would say things like "someone who claims herself as an artist shouldn't be commended for writing a third of the album" Why is that offensive to you when it has nothing to do with you? I don't mean to sound obsessed with gaga but her last album artpop had a FLOOD of producers on the writing credits, but as far as I know nobody has criticized her for it or tried to say anything about her not being an artist. I just think it's slightly hypocritical because madonna has never ever in her life made an album where somebody has completely done EVERYTHING For her. It just does not set well with me that a so called fan would make these kind of remarks, because her process for an album has slightly changed! Think about all the singers out here who write NOTHING on their albums and just rerecord the demos given to them! Madonna at least contributes to the process in her albums, she always has! If it makes you feel better, I don't talk about Lady Gaga because I'm not even remotely interested in her. It's hard to criticize someone when you don't know a damn thing about her anymore. I talk about Madonna because I'm interested in her and I care about her. And when I discuss about her with other fans on different Madonna forums, I feel like I can say whatever I feel. It's sort of within family. It's like with my favorite sports teams. I can tell them that they suck but a non-fan better not say they stink or I let them have it. Same with Madonna. But in general, what I say about Madonna applies to everyone whether I know them or not. It's a well-known fact that Beyonce bulldozes her name into songwriting credits even though she doesn't write even one word. You can be sure that I don't respect her for that either. But again, why would I talk about Beyonce when I don't listen to her and I'm not interested in her? As for people who don't write their own material, it's fine. At least they are honest about it. They don't claim to have written those songs that they record. But usually their talent is in singing. For example, Barbra Streisand whom I love. She never claims to have written the songs and always praises the people who write their songs. But her talent is in singing (and in acting, directing etc. which makes her an artist). Madonna's gift isn't in singing although she is very much underrated as one (which is why I wish she'd stopped computerizing her vocals... there's nothing I'd rather listen to than her natural singing voice). Madonna has proven that she can a very good at songwriting if she puts her mind into it. When she accepts and rejects songs that were rejected by singers like Britney and Rihanna (notice that I don't call them artists!), I don't know why I should think that is something a real artist would do. It simply isn't what artists do. I mean, what is the artistry in that? I think it shows that she isn't really into making an album or music anymore and is doing it only because she is contractually obliged to do so. It's a shame. She can do so much better and she would get so much more respect from everyone if she committed herself into writing and creating an album. Or do you disagree? Do you honestly think she does better when she takes those rejected songs from other much lesser pop stars? All in all, I appreciate truth and transparency. It's a major turn-off for me when people take credit for something they haven't done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 In the realm of songwriting I would love Madonna to work with Priscilla Renea again. Priscilla has nothing but positive things to say about working with M, a great talent and a whizz with lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Who is she Chelle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Who is she Chelle? Songwriter. She co wrote Gang Bang and Love Spent on MDNA. She also writes for Rihanna, Bruno Mars, Cheryl Cole and a host of other artists. She's also the one that sings the backing on the acoustic version of Love Spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Cool, thanks! I should spend more time paying attention to these details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Cool, thanks! I should spend more time paying attention to these details Hahah I met her when she came over with Rihanna. We were fangirling over Madonna. She's so lovely. M could do just one song with her and I'd be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Did she happen to comment on M's input into those songs?....dare I ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Did she happen to comment on M's input into those songs?....dare I ask Yeah she did. She was amazed at how quickly M writes. She said after they thought love spent was finished M emailed them in the middle of the night saying she wants to change the song. And then the 3rd verse was changed the next morning. San last time I dared to state this in a thread it was implied that I was lying. But Priscilla was totally amazed at how professional Madonna was. We literally talked about her throughout the whole dinner. They're still in touch so who knows. It's nice to know that Everyone who works with M always has nice things to say about her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 ^ Not denying your story or that this is what happened, but why would she email them to say she wanted to change the song? She could just change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkbysix Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Why is that offensive to you when it has nothing to do with you? If it makes you feel better, I don't talk about Lady Gaga because I'm not even remotely interested in her. It's hard to criticize someone when you don't know a damn thing about her anymore. I talk about Madonna because I'm interested in her and I care about her. And when I discuss about her with other fans on different Madonna forums, I feel like I can say whatever I feel. It's sort of within family. It's like with my favorite sports teams. I can tell them that they suck but a non-fan better not say they stink or I let them have it. Same with Madonna. But in general, what I say about Madonna applies to everyone whether I know them or not. It's a well-known fact that Beyonce bulldozes her name into songwriting credits even though she doesn't write even one word. You can be sure that I don't respect her for that either. But again, why would I talk about Beyonce when I don't listen to her and I'm not interested in her? As for people who don't write their own material, it's fine. At least they are honest about it. They don't claim to have written those songs that they record. But usually their talent is in singing. For example, Barbra Streisand whom I love. She never claims to have written the songs and always praises the people who write their songs. But her talent is in singing (and in acting, directing etc. which makes her an artist). Madonna's gift isn't in singing although she is very much underrated as one (which is why I wish she'd stopped computerizing her vocals... there's nothing I'd rather listen to than her natural singing voice). Madonna has proven that she can a very good at songwriting if she puts her mind into it. When she accepts and rejects songs that were rejected by singers like Britney and Rihanna (notice that I don't call them artists!), I don't know why I should think that is something a real artist would do. It simply isn't what artists do. I mean, what is the artistry in that? I think it shows that she isn't really into making an album or music anymore and is doing it only because she is contractually obliged to do so. It's a shame. She can do so much better and she would get so much more respect from everyone if she committed herself into writing and creating an album. Or do you disagree? Do you honestly think she does better when she takes those rejected songs from other much lesser pop stars? All in all, I appreciate truth and transparency. It's a major turn-off for me when people take credit for something they haven't done. When has madonna claimed she has written these songs? This is what you're not understanding! Madonna has nothing to prove anymore! If she wants to record a song that's been rejected, she can do so! That does not make her any less of an artist. Why does it matter to me? Because I've been a fan of madonna for years and I hate it when people claim she is something she is not. Chelle just noted that she changed love spent. If she changed it she deserves a writing credit! Heartbeat she changed BOTH verses! Say what you want about her getting rejected songs, but you know what makes her an artist? Changing them to fit what she wants! Revolver is really the only song I've heard that madonna has literally changed nothing about it. When it comes to her albums madonna is not gonna sit back and let someone do everything for her! She never parades around and tells people she wrote something she did not! And thats something that makes her a fucking artist! Since when did writing credits mean she claims she wrote the song? You refuse to see past your stubborn views! Madonna isn't 30 anymore! She can't go by your standards! I don't understand how much I have to repeat myself, and I'm done trying to prove something to you. I sure hope madonna goes the prince route and has solo writing credits on literally every song and produces it on her own so people can finally shut up! For god sake I'm tired of the complaining about her writing process! You know I wouldn't even mind if she stopped recording all together. Fans are so overbearing, with what THEYwant her to do! So done with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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