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Dress You Up: Meet Maripol, the Woman Behind Madonna’s Look

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/dress-meet-maripol-woman-behind-madonna-look-223557062.html

Thirty years ago, on July 27, 1983, a woman named Madonna Louise Ciccone released her self-titled debut album, and it soon launched not just a music revolution, but a fashion revolution as well. The disc's stark black-and-white artwork — Madonna clasping her unforgettable face between bracelet-stacked hands on the front, wrapping a thick dog-chain necklace around her throat on the back — comprised some of the most striking pop imagery of the '80s.

It wasn't long before every little girl in the world wanted to be Madonna (or a "Madonnabe"), bedecking themselves with oversized lace hair-bows, crucifixes, stacks of rubber bangles, and, much to their parents' chagrin, Boy Toy belts and visible bras. But Madonna didn't come up with her early, iconic look on her own. Madonna had a lucky star on her side back then, a visionary stylist, who actually crafted that image. And that woman also went by singular name: Maripol.

"If only I would have been smart, if only you could copyright the look — which I don't even know if it existed back then — I would have been a multimillionaire for sure." she says. "I did go bankrupt because everybody copied me, every single industry. But genuinely, it doesn't matter. I swear I don't care. I became a freelance stylist to survive, and then I had a kid. I bankrupted in 1988 and had a kid in 1990. I'm very happy; I have a beautiful 23-year-old son now."

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Without Maripol — a French-expat artist, jewelry designer, photographer, film producer, and NYC girl-about-(down)town — Madonna may have never become MADONNA. After all, Maripol was the woman who popularized the jelly bracelet. (Fun fact: Grace Jones was the first to wear Maripol's rubber creations, on her ankles.) And she was the woman who first convinced Madonna to dance onstage in a bra. But of course, Maripol's achievements extend well beyond that.

Speaking to Yahoo! Music from New York, where she still resides and where she's preparing to release a new photography book, Maripola X, Maripol humbly, grudgingly concedes, "Whatever, yes, I did create a legend." Recalling the night that started it all, at New York hip-hop club the Roxy more than three decades ago, she says: "There was lot of mix of culture coming from England, with people like Bow Wow Wow, and then there was Fab Five Freddy, from 'Yo! MTV Raps,' which was also the beginning of this whole movement.

Fab Five Freddy asked me if I could find cute girls, and I turned around and saw Madonna and asked her if she would want to go onstage. I asked her if she had a nice bra on, and she thought I was out of my mind! I asked her to actually take her top off. And the rest is history."

[Guest Rachelle of London]

I didnt know Maripol went bankrupt

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So, was that unofficial beginning of the underwear-as-outerwear trend? "No, that was the beginning of the fact that I'm French! I was less puritan than anyone else, and I was always taking my clothes off, unfortunately," Maripol laughs. "After that, Madonna actually made an appointment to come see me in my loft, because she wanted me to create her look…

I had already invented the rubber bracelet and I was the art director of Fiorucci, and I thought that she was the perfect person to carry around my style. And it was perfect for her as well." Maripol and Madonna's first fashion collaboration was for the Madonna album cover, on whichMaripol's bold, punky jewelry was practically as much the star as Madonna herself.

Maripol's involvement in Madonna's early career opened many doors for the singer. For instance, there was the night that Madonna, at the time still a total unknown, performed at Fiorucci's 15th anniversary soiree — a booking that Maripol, the art director for the trendsetting Italian boutique in the late '70s/early '80s, had to fight for. "I had a big budget and I kept saying to my boss, 'I want this singer.' Everybody was like, 'No, no, who is that, who is Madonna? We want the girl who played in Flashdance, Jennifer Beals.'

And I'm like, 'Jennifer Beals? She is not a singer!' Finally I won. I had a big rubber cake with 15 candles and Madonna to jump out of it, and Madonna jumped out that day. The club was packed, and she got the manager of Michael Jackson to come, and I think he signed her right there on the spot."

Maripol maintained a massive influence on Madonna's style during the subsequent Like a Virgin era, more than once stopping her star client and friend from becoming a fashion victim. Recalling the cover shoot for the Like a Virgin album, Maripol says: "The art director had this idea which was to have the black Sabbath-type virgin. You know, like black lipstick, black this, black that. And I kept saying to her, 'We should go for the real thing, come on!'" Eventually Madonna wore her VMAs-immortalized white wedding dress (more on that in a bit), and the result was yet another historical album cover.

Maripol also stepped in when she thought the stage costumes for 1984's The Virgin Tour were, well, a little too Prince-ly. "There was a designer, a really nice English girl, Marlene Stewart. And Marlene designed everything [for the tour] very 'Purple Rain.' And I went to Madonna and she showed me everything and I said, 'Madonna, you're Madonna. Why don't you keep a bit of what you have?' And she listened to me."

[Raf]

I didnt know Maripol went bankrupt

Neither did I!!! It kind of makes me angry with Macy's for releasing that Madonnaland line. She probably didn't get a dime for that...

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"Madonna had to break through; I knew she was going to make it big, because I could see how ambitious she was, in a very genuine and sweet way. The wedding outfit did help. I knew that day that she had made it," says Maripol. "Every journalist was rushing, running, going, 'Oh my God, who is this girl with the white outfit rolling and crawling on the floor, with crosses in her ears and her name is Madonna? And she's singing about being like a virgin?' They were shocked, yes!"

Madonna's peekaboo bridal gown still stands as one of her most memorable looks, of course. Older generations may vividly recall the exact moment when they first saw Elvis twitch his pelvis on TV or when the Beatles first performed on "Ed Sullivan," but for children of the '80s, THE defining televised music moment was when Madonna kicked off the first annual MTV Video Music Awards in 1984. No one had ever seen anything like it at the time, and Maripol was there to see it in person.

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"I think Madonna might have a multiple personality. I know you [think I am kidding], but I think it goes with the pain of losing your mother so young [at age 5]. Multiple personality, that's my theory," Maripol muses. "But that is really excellent for her career, because she decides to really change her look, so people will never get bored of her. It's a genius strategy. She says she changes her music, but come on, the music has always been the same."

At first, it seemed like the racy performance might be career suicide for Madonna, Maripol says. "I was right there, I saw it happening. I saw what [MTV] did, and I can tell you that they tried to destroy her that day. They went under her skirt with the camera; they were trying to intimidate her," she recalls. But of course, the stunt stratospherically catapulted Madonna to superstar status.

"Madonna had to break through; I knew she was going to make it big, because I could see how ambitious she was, in a very genuine and sweet way. The wedding outfit did help. I knew that day that she had made it," says Maripol. "Every journalist was rushing, running, going, 'Oh my God, who is this girl with the white outfit rolling and crawling on the floor, with crosses in her ears and her name is Madonna? And she's singing about being like a virgin?' They were shocked, yes!"

Once the aforementioned Madonnabes came out in full force and took over malls everywhere, Maripol had mixed feelings about the trends she'd helped create. One time, when judging a Madonna lookalike contest in 1985 with none other than Andy Warhol at Macy's (amusingly, the department store that would carry Madonna's own Material Girl fashion line decades later), she was conflicted. "I saw those young girls and it was sad. They wanted to mimic Madonna, and they were so young. It was all about the fun and stuff but…oh my God," Maripol sighs.

[Guest Rachelle of London]

Neither did I!!! It kind of makes me angry with Macy's for releasing that Madonnaland line. She probably didn't get a dime for that...

I know! To think she was so influential in Ms launch! If her and M are in speaking terms, Madonna shouldve hired her to be creative director or something on the Material Girl line

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"I have a very young publisher, Adele Jancovici, and we really love each other and she's very smart, and I trusted her to open my secret box," she says of her upcoming book of photos. "They're all very sexy pictures of that period, of me mostly, but a lot other people too.

There is one for the first album cover of Madonna that was rejected by the record company that was never used. It's a genuinely beautiful picture of her, but it was not in line with Madonna as we knew her with all the rubber and being like a little punky. We had beautiful pictures with her with sheets around her, beautiful lights and makeup, but they were all rejected."

Perhaps she had mixed feelings over the fact that she never really got proper credit, at least not in the mainstream, for her pop-culture influence. When mall shops ripped off and mass-produced her designs, Maripol ended up basically broke.

"If only I would have been smart, if only you could copyright the look — which I don't even know if it existed back then — I would have been a multimillionaire for sure." she says. "I did go bankrupt because everybody copied me, every single industry. But genuinely, it doesn't matter. I swear I don't care. I became a freelance stylist to survive, and then I had a kid. I bankrupted in 1988 and had a kid in 1990. I'm very happy; I have a beautiful 23-year-old son now."

Eventually the chameleonic Madonna changed her style, many times over, and while Maripol was still involved with Madonna's later looks — the sleek bustier outfit that Madonna wore for her Marilyn-esque first major makeover in the "Papa Don't Preach" video, and the rubber dress she wore in the milk-lapping scene of the "Express Yourself" video, were both Maripol creations — eventually Madonna moved on the other, higher-end designers (like Jean Paul Gaultier, who created her early-'90s cone bra).

"I think Madonna might have a multiple personality. I know you [think I am kidding], but I think it goes with the pain of losing your mother so young [at age 5]. Multiple personality, that's my theory," Maripol muses. "But that is really excellent for her career, because she decides to really change her look, so people will never get bored of her. It's a genius strategy. She says she changes her music, but come on, the music has always been the same."

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"I'm very happy for her. And you know what? In a way, I got the freedom to walk around in the street, and she doesn't have that. And I think it's very difficult for her to not be able to have that freedom. Once you lose that freedom, does that make you more happy in life?

I've always kept good relation with her and I really wish her the immense best, and I will get my claim of fame eventually. I'm always there and I'm always redoing fashion…My jewelry back then and now came from the heart, came from the street, came from our brain, came from the fact that you don't have to spend $5,000."

Maripol has certainly kept busy in past years. Among her many endeavors, she has released three art books (including 2006's Maripol: Little Red Riding Hood, on Marc Jacobs's BookMarc imprint), with a fourth tome,Maripola X, due out on Le Livre Art Publishing this fall. "I have a very young publisher, Adele Jancovici, and we really love each other and she's very smart, and I trusted her to open my secret box," she says of her upcoming book of photos.

"They're all very sexy pictures of that period, of me mostly, but a lot other people too. There is one for the first album cover of Madonna that was rejected by the record company that was never used. It's a genuinely beautiful picture of her, but it was not in line with Madonna as we knew her with all the rubber and being like a little punky. We had beautiful pictures with her with sheets around her, beautiful lights and makeup, but they were all rejected."

Maripol has also art-directed music videos for the likes of Cher and Elton John; she's a regular contributor to Document magazine; she collaborated on a 2010 line of vintage-inspired jewelry and T-shirts with Marc Jacobs; she launched a new jewelry line called Atomic Glamour; her Polaroid photographs have been shown in galleries around the world; and she directed ARTE Creative's Keith Haring documentary The Message, which can be viewed here. "I also have multiple personalities," the artist laughs.

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With such a bustling career, Maripol harbors no resentment towards Madonna, reasoning: "I'm very happy for her. And you know what? In a way, I got the freedom to walk around in the street, and she doesn't have that. And I think it's very difficult for her to not be able to have that freedom. Once you lose that freedom, does that make you more happy in life?

I've always kept good relation with her and I really wish her the immense best, and I will get my claim of fame eventually. I'm always there and I'm always redoing fashion…My jewelry back then and now came from the heart, came from the street, came from our brain, came from the fact that you don't have to spend $5,000."

[ryan]

I love those polaroids. The second to the left in the middle row looks like the "Lucky Star" album photoshoot set.

[Shine]

Did Yahoo use an OTCOAM scan ?

[HolidayGuy]

The music's always been the same? Uh, sure it has. If same means something that would be classified as "pop," then, yeah, she'd be correct.

[Guest Pud Whacker]

I didnt know Maripol went bankrupt

yup. when madonna did THIS:

[Nightshade]

I've never understood that whole bankruptcy thing. She obviously did well when the Wannabes were buying the stuff up. I think she just didn't save or invest her money wisely (hardly Madonna's fault). For heaven's sake she designed all the merchandising for the Virgin Tour.

Shoulda saved your pennies, Maripol. The gravy train don't last forever.

[cosmic_system]

Maripol is actually a bitch. She wrote me on FB once because I was using one of the many polaroids of M that are everywhere on the web as a profile picture and she said I stole it and it was under copyright and I couldn't use it. She was very rude.

I have her two books and they're amazing tough.

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I like the overall tone of the interview. I like the Fiorucci part. Elio Fiorucci has always spoken highly of Madonna and he's possibly the only big Italian fashion designer to have met her pre huge fame, pre LAV, pre 1983. He was at the WTG concert in Turin with Giorgio Armani talking to Italian television about the phenomenon that Madonna is

However I do think she sounds a bit resentful/bitchy and somewhat insincere in parts: it makes you go ... uhm .... yes what the hell are you saying?

Without Maripol Madonna may have never become MADONNA. And she was the woman who first convinced Madonna to dance onstage in a bra But of course, Maripol's achievements extend well beyond that

"Whatever, yes, I did create a legend."

Madonna wanted me to create her look…

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Maripol also stepped in when she thought the stage costumes for 1984's The Virgin Tour were, well, a little too Prince-ly

" She decides to really change her look, so people will never get bored of her. It's a genius strategy. She says she changes her music, but come on, the music has always been the same."

" My jewelry back then and now came from the heart, came from the street, came from our brain, came from the fact that you don't have to spend $5,000."

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Bitch gives herself too much credit.

[Iconic Fetus]

bitch please, you have your time and didn't explode it, now STFU.

[Larkspur]

You know I was all ready to check her book out and all but wtf is the music comment about? I mean great you helped get dressed in the early eighties but what the hell is she talking about the music has been the same? Every record sounds the same? You have her confused with someone else honey.

[Guest groovyguy]

"...the music has always been the same."

Seriously, wtf?

[Larkspur]

Yeah I mean what's the point of listening to Impressive Instant if you have already heard True Blue?

[coco]

I did create a legend.

love her but that's plain delusional

madonna's career would've remained the same with or without those rubber bracelets

her look was all about the attitude and persona...never the cheap accessories

[Mat.Guy]

love her but that's plain delusional

madonna's career would've remained the same with or without those rubber bracelets

her look was all about the attitude and persona...never the cheap accessories

She totally sounds like Christopher here. Please!

[ryan]

While I don't deny the fact that she did something for Ms career, I think she holds herself too high. She was only responsible for a small percentage. There are other people more responsible for such a larger credit.

Girl did have style though.

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You know I was all ready to check her book out and all but wtf is the music comment about? I mean great you helped get dressed in the early eighties but what the hell is she talking about the music has been the same? Every record sounds the same? You have her confused with someone else honey.

Exactly

She's like:

Madonna asked me to give her a look to introduce herself to the world

I went bankrupt because I didn't copyright my work

Madonna is a genius: she found a way to stay relevant by changing her image all the time

She says she has changed her music but that's not true

The part where she says she convinced Madonna to dance on stage with a bra is the most hilarious one

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love her but that's plain delusional

madonna's career would've remained the same with or without those rubber bracelets

her look was all about the attitude and persona...never the cheap accessories

[Larkspur]

Oh XXL I know! It's hysterical.

"I asked her if she had a nice bra on and she thought I was out of my mind!" She probaly thought she was out of her mind for ASKING if she had a nice bra on.