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Wow, large fonted articles are very convincing. :lol:

I already knew that Hillary accepted large speaking fees from big banks. I also know she was on the Board of Directors for Walmart and voted for the Iraq war. Yawn. These are not startling revelations. By the way, when Obama was a Senator he supported that energy policy to open up Mexico's energy market to outside companies. The entire U.S. government supports opening new markets because it's in our interest to have competition in the oil industry. My question would be, why is the Mexican government allowing it? It's their state-run company. Don't blame predatory U.S. interests when Mexico's government is about as corrupt as they come. Who is to blame?

The hungry wolf or the sheep who wears a raw steak for a necklace?

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I'm not blaming Hillary alone for what happened. Peña Nieto is seriously a monster, WAY, WAY worse than Assad and Mubarak ever were and Hillary and Obama love him and are perfectly fine with all of the horrible thing they do to peaceful protestors. I do find it hilarious that Hillary was involved in drafting a massively unpopular reform that has led to very violent protests and that was rammed down our throats, and the only reason we found out is because her personal emails were released to the public. So trustworthy

Anyway, If you feel comfortable voting for someone who works for Wall Street, orchestrates coups and proxy wars and pressures sovereign nations to pass reforms that benefit their own personal interests (not the nation's, literally their own personal interests), then more power to you :thumbsup:

Oh, and that first article I copied and pasted it directly from the website without making anything bigger, hence all the weird formatting issues, and the second article and I posted only what I thought was of interest to the topic at hand because I didn't want to bother you with all 15 pages of that or so. Sorry, didn't mean to offend you.

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Honestly, the more I think about it, you're full of it. If we were to turn tables, NOBODY in the U.S. would be happy to know that Saudi Arabia, just as an example, pressured the U.S. government into privatizing, I don't know, the Social Security program, all because a couple of its top leaders secretly wanted in on the action.

I hate how you just laugh all of that off and say oh well, Hillary was just looking out for U.S. interests. Give me a break. It's fucking evil. And if what you say were true, the U.S. would be secretly pressuring the Saudi King into privatizing its state owned oil industry, but no, they don't give a shit. What you say makes absolutely no sense at all.

What's even worse about what you say is that the ONLY people that will be benefitting from the privatization of Mexico's oil industry are corporations, which just proves that Hillary is working for corporate america and not the American people! It's absolutely awful and disgusting that in your mind U.S. Interests = U.S. oil companies.

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Cant wait for lard butt Christie to drop out.

Its amazing how a few years ago he was being groomed to be the great white hope for the GOP, and now he is hardly on the radar. :lol:

You know Chris Christie Chrispie Kreme likes to lube up that lard butt with Crisco shortening.

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What happened to Bobby Jindal? I never liked him, but he was being touted as the Republican's next great hope in 2009, and now he's completely out of steam, no one talks about him, and he wasn't even on the main debate stage with those other clowns.

He has a double degree from Brown University.

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She was awesome. I love all the pressed republicans leaving their ridiculous comments in the comments section. One person wrote a damn essay on how she completely missed the point on the whole slavery analogy, because what Ben Carson REALLY meant to say was (blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah).

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I can't stop laughing

Ben Carsons wife singing the national anthem

Holy shit!

Imagine the shit storm Michele Obama would have faced if she butchered the national anthem like that? Fox News would still be ripping into her.

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Historic: Sanders Files First Senate Bill In History To Legalize Marijuana

Bernie Sanders, the populist firebrand Senator for Vermont whose presidential campaign has exploded in recent months, has made history once again by filing the first-ever Senate bill to fully legalize recreational marijuana use. Specifically, it would remove it from the list of prohibited substances, where it shares the severity of destructive drugs like heroin and methamphetamine, and removes federal barriers from states that have already decided to decriminalize the popular drug, but still leaves the door open for states to prohibit its use if their legislators so desire.

“The time is long overdue for us to take marijuana off the federal government’s list of outlawed drugs. In my view, states should have the right to regulate marijuana the same way that state and local laws now govern sales of alcohol and tobacco” Sanders told the Washington Post. Other bills have been proposed to decriminalize, or legalize only medical marijuana, but this is the first bill to fully legalize the popular plant.

Far too many lives have been ruined by the harsh policing of marijuana, and too many billions of taxpayer dollars wasted in persecuting minor drug offenders – which disproportionately punish African Americans, who are three times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites. Enforcing marijuana laws also costs our nation $3.6 billion dollars a year, for little to no result. 23 states have legalized the use of medical marijuana; four have legalized it entirely. The experiments in Colorado and Washington states have resulted in huge boosts in tax revenue. There’s really no reason for us to continue wallowing in Reagan-era paranoia and let the people of America use marijuana if they so choose. It’s not like forty years of the War On Drugs has had any success up to this point.

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Media Silent As Sanders Overtakes Trump In Every Major Poll

We are all aware of the constant Republican whining about “mainstream liberal media bias,” especially after last week’s outpouring of crocodile tears about the “gotcha questions” from debate moderators at CNBC. The candidates showed outrageous rancor against CNBC’s moderators and with the complicit assistance from the mainstream media sucessfully framed this as a story about the candidate-moderator relationship rather than the candidates’ inability to respond to the debate questions themselves. It is beginning to appear that the issue isn’t a “liberal” or “conservative” bias, but rather an establishment bias – consider, for instance that Bernie Sanders (I-Vt) has quietly lead Donald Trump in a presidential match in almost every recent poll with nary a word from the media.

In fact, according to RealClear Politics, in a general election: Sanders vs. Trump, Sanders is up by 9 points over Trump, 50 percent to 41 percent in the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll from October 29. In another recent poll from CNN/ORC, Sanders also leads Trump by 9 points, 53 percent to 44 percent. In last week’s Quinnipiac poll, Sanders leads Trump by 2 points, 46 percent to 44 percent. And in the summary averages from RealClear Politics as of Wednesday morning, Sanders leads Trump by 3.2 points.

Writing for the Hill, Brent Budowsky points out that these polls – absent any media coverage of a potential landslide victory for Sanders trouncing Trump in a head-to-head match-up – should let us “dismiss the myth of liberal media.” These polls suggest that a Sanders victory is highly plausible, and the Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal is hardly a liberal publication, but as Budowsky brilliantly puts it: “when America’s premier journal of capitalism releases a poll showing the democratic socialist candidate defeating by a landslide margin the capitalist who dominates television news, methinks it is liberals, not conservatives, who have the better argument against bias!”

In his four decades since entering politics in the 1970’s, Sanders has remained consistent to his original views on Wall Street and the banks, poverty, the environment, women’s rights, income disparities, the plight of the working class, and his ideas about the corporate media. He believes that the media “tends to trivialize the important issues…They want to cover campaign fights, not campaign debates…They over-rely on entertaining soundbites. Their news agenda is about generating profits, not producing quality journalism that will educate the voters.” It should be of no surprise that the media is threatened by Sanders and his ideas – trying to educate and empower folks to take-back control of their government. Why would the media report on polls that show the real possibility of a President Sanders?

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The media is not reporting that because Hillary is still trouncing Sanders in every national poll. And as Ben Carson is now beating Trump in most polls, polls that show what would happen if two runner ups went head-to-head aren't news. Trump is waning. Carson and Rubio are ascending. Hillary remains front-runner everywhere except New Hampshire.

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How in the world is the fact that Bernie Sanders, who was virtually unknown to the general public only a few months ago, is gaining popularity all over the country against a woman who's been in the spotlight since the 90's and who's basically been running for POTUS since 2000 not newsworthy? Every gain he makes is newsworthy IMO.

But, Sanders is clearly way behind Clinton in many states and at this point it's obvious she's got the nomination in the bag.

On a side note, here are some numbers that I find to be extremely alarming:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Of course, anything can between now and the actual elections, but...

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The media is not reporting that because Hillary is still trouncing Sanders in every national poll. And as Ben Carson is now beating Trump in most polls, polls that show what would happen if two runner ups went head-to-head aren't news. Trump is waning. Carson and Rubio are ascending. Hillary remains front-runner everywhere except New Hampshire.

The point is the media still refuses to take Sanders seriously as a candidate and many yell and scream that America would never vote for a self described "socialist". Well it looks like if he were the nominee they very well might.

He also leads Rubio in a general election conducted in the Wall Street Journal poll also.

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The nominee on the republican side will NOT be Carson.

I mean I would hope it would be him or Trump because they would get their asses kicked, but its highly unlikely.

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The nominee on the republican side will NOT be Carson.

I mean I would hope it would be him or Trump because they would get their asses kicked, but its highly unlikely.

It's probably going to be someone like Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz. On another topic, what did people think about that Democratic Form that just occurred? Bernie definitely won it. He performed well in answering almost all the questions well except for the ones relating to gun laws.

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I watched it. I thought they were all really good. I feel like yet again the biggest winner of the night was the democratic party for simply showcasing that they are the party of sanity.

Now back to the insanity. :lol:

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The media is not reporting that because Hillary is still trouncing Sanders in every national poll.

To quote the above post by Skin:

"It should be of no surprise that the media is threatened by Sanders and his ideas – trying to educate and empower folks to take-back control of their government. Why would the media report on polls that show the real possibility of a President Sanders?"

That says it all in a nutshell. The media is going to focus on Clinton and the Republicans because they are the bought and paid for candidates, the candidates who serve them and the corporations. Bernie is a threat to the oligarchy, encouraging people to wake up and start a movement. Scary! Hillary and pretty much any Republican or Democrat are the perfect Wall Street candidates. Perhaps if the mainstream media actually did its job and reported on Sanders as much as they do on Clinton and Trump, for example, then just perhaps Sanders would be leading in every poll. Then again, when the polls went up after the first Democratic debate, it was not long before the polls got taken down because Sanders was far in the lead. Considering that most Americans actually side with the ideas and the values of Sanders, he is not as radical as the mainstream media portrays him.

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