MadFan Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Okay, 'Nation. @ the risk of the other thread going more off-topic: poll's up. I'm give or take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narendra Sen Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'm okay with it. A few weeks ago when this was just a rumour I was all "No, Vadge! Don't do it, don't do it, he's a tramp, he's a slut", but now I'm over it. I didn't want her to use it cause I thought she'd be demolished for it and that's "exactly what she needs" right now, but Madonna would be ripped to shreds even if she didn't do it so what's the difference? If anything, this mash-up shows how perfectly BTW fits in the EY instrumental. I mean, to me it's pretty obvious what M is trying to say/do. + I'm GLAD Song Of Life #4 She's Not Me gets a cameo in Madonna's best tour ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yes. The song fits perfectly and I actually love the way she sings it. I don't see it as a diss, M actually loves the song.U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'll reserve full judgement until a full clip leaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 It sounds good but I'm not a fan of the idea, to be honest. I don't think it's an hommage, it's classic M shade - especially with the inclusion of She's not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boytoyville Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah, I think it's kind of funny and kind of a wtf moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yes, it will be a laugh. If it's true that she sings "she's not me", the it will be a very funny war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Express Yourself and Born This Way obviously mesh very well...but the inclusion of She's Not Me makes it too obvious that it's a diss to Lady Gaga. I think M should leave She's Not Me out of it so that it's more open to interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yes, it will be a laugh. If it's true that she sings "she's not me", the it will be a very funny war! Of course it's true. Have you not heard the rehearsals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 oh, i don't visit the tour thread until everything becomes official. I will start visiting it, thanks Hyper babe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narendra Sen Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 the inclusion of She's Not Me makes it too obvious that it's a diss to Lady Gaga. I think M should leave She's Not Me out of it so that it's more open to interpretation. Why leave room for interpretation? Madonna is clearly saying that Germanotta is a copycat. I see nothing wrong with that. It's the truth. She'll be criticised. Big deal. When ISN'T she criticised? If that's what she wants to do, good for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Why leave room for interpretation? Madonna is clearly saying that Germanotta is a copycat. I see nothing wrong with that. It's the truth. She'll be criticised. Big deal. When ISN'T she criticised? If that's what she wants to do, good for her. I believe the ambivalence would work better plus it will fuel more speculation about M's true opinion on the matter. By making her diss so obvious she's going to come across as a fading star who is growing increasingly bitter with old age towards a younger pop tart. Madonna is above all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narendra Sen Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I believe the ambivalence would work better plus it will fuel more speculation about M's true opinion on the matter. By making her diss so obvious she's going to come across as a fading star who is growing increasingly bitter with old age towards a younger pop tart. Madonna is above all of that. People already know (or think they know) M's opinion on Germanotta. "Reductive" has overshadowed "I think she's a talented artist". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I believe the ambivalence would work better plus it will fuel more speculation about M's true opinion on the matter. By making her diss so obvious she's going to come across as a fading star who is growing increasingly bitter with old age towards a younger pop tart. Madonna is above all of that. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Case39 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 People already know (or think they know) M's opinion on Germanotta. "Reductive" has overshadowed "I think she's a talented artist". Definitively. Gaga fans even act as if Madonna only dissed Gaga and never complimented her. At the very moment any artist don't totally kiss Gaga's ass, the Monsters go MAD To answer the topic, i don't think the "She's not me" inclusion is a good idea but as Narendra Sen said, Madonna is ALWAYS trashed by the medias so it's not different than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaron Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think its a great Idea. Madonna always supported young singers like Kylie or Britney...maybe this time, Gaga herself will be on stage with her, if both of their calenderys collide ! Though its impossible I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Get me a fan, now In other words: I dont know... On one hand, it does make Madonna look bad because she is indulging into negative emotions which is never good. On the other hand she is expressing her point of view no matter what which was always a quality I liked in Madonna. However I m not sure if there shouldnt be boundaries in expressing yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest I'llTeachYouHowTo... Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 i fucking love it. im glad she's gonna be shading that beast every night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I believe the ambivalence would work better plus it will fuel more speculation about M's true opinion on the matter. By making her diss so obvious she's going to come across as a fading star who is growing increasingly bitter with old age towards a younger pop tart. Madonna is above all of that. Exactly. Anyway, if she HAD to include that piece of shit on her hit song she should just leave at that and not put She's Not Me there. I would be okay with that. But for now i can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I hope she won't get booed during that performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narendra Sen Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I hope she won't get booed during that performance Will Lil' Mahnsters buy tickets to the MDNAT just to boo Madonna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ditaluver Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/05/30/madonnas-lady-gaga-video-just-the-beginning-of-pr-summer/ Madonna's Lady Gaga Video Just the Beginning of PR Summer Madonna is getting a huge response to her Lady Gaga video. Shes actually resurrected a story from more than a year ago, planted it on YouTube, and watched it go viral. No knows more abour PR viruses than Madonna. She had a hit with a song called Vogue well after vogeuing had been in vogue. Madonnas genius has always been to take pieces of existing culture and reshape them into something that seemed new. Singing Born this Way in rehearsal, and ending the video by declaring Shes Not Me, was a planned bit of show business. Its almost as if she were channeling the so called father of public relations, Edward Bernays, who was Sigmund Freuds nephew. Madonna is parked in Tel Aviv, starting an international tour. She has no album on the charts, and her producer, William Orbit, criticized her publicly. Its going to be a long hot summer of touring. She doesnt get to Yankee Stadium until September 6th, where she still has seats to fill. Its doubtful that shell actually perform the Express Yourself/Born this Way/Shes Not Me medley in concert. For one thing, shed have to pay for Born this Way. Thats not happening. But what will she do next? And who will she do it to? Those are the questions. And Im delighted to wait and watch a master at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I walked into work today and I guess everyone had heard the clip. Everyone looooooooooooooooved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensch Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/05/30/madonnas-lady-gaga-video-just-the-beginning-of-pr-summer/ Madonna's Lady Gaga Video Just the Beginning of PR Summer Madonna is getting a huge response to her Lady Gaga video. She’s actually resurrected a story from more than a year ago, planted it on YouTube, and watched it go viral. No knows more abour PR viruses than Madonna. She had a hit with a song called “Vogue” well after “vogeuing” had been in vogue. Madonna’s genius has always been to take pieces of existing culture and reshape them into something that seemed new. Singing “Born this Way” in rehearsal, and ending the video by declaring “She’s Not Me,” was a planned bit of show business. It’s almost as if she were channeling the so called father of public relations, Edward Bernays, who was Sigmund Freud’s nephew. Madonna is parked in Tel Aviv, starting an international tour. She has no album on the charts, and her producer, William Orbit, criticized her publicly. It’s going to be a long hot summer of touring. She doesn’t get to Yankee Stadium until September 6th, where she still has seats to fill. It’s doubtful that she’ll actually perform the “Express Yourself/Born this Way/She’s Not Me” medley in concert. For one thing, she’d have to pay for “Born this Way.” That’s not happening. But what will she do next? And who will she do it to? Those are the questions. And I’m delighted to wait and watch a master at work. A maste at work and yet they point out theirs still seats to fill and that her albums not on the charts? Jeez, they are annoying when they write about M, but they are right about her being a master of publicity. I didn't like the idea AT ALL before, but now, it seems fitting. The message is clear and to the point; "your version is a clear carbon copy of my mega-hit and with all this drama, I'm going to take your song (which is really my song) around the world and show everyone the difference between the true M and you, the imitation. We've got two tours going...let's see who fairs better." And with that said, I love the incursion of "respect yourself"...it's fitting to the idea that she should be herself instead of copying of Madonna so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reQuiem4adream Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah. I heard Respect Yourself too!!!! Loved it! Yes, I like it! GAG copied EY and lied about M's permission. Even worse she gave the credit to the departed WH. So now it's M's turn to let the world know (just in case they don't) who's more original. And I love the play with She's Not Me. That's even a bigger slap in GAG's face! I don't think M's paying homage to her. She doesn't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensch Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah. I heard Respect Yourself too!!!! Loved it! Yes, I like it! GAG copied EY and lied about M's permission. Even worse she gave the credit to the departed WH. So now it's M's turn to let the world know (just in case they don't) who's more original. And I love the play with She's Not Me. That's even a bigger slap in GAG's face! I don't think M's paying homage to her. She doesn't need to. I think she's paying homage to the lyrical content of both BTW and her own song, stating that the lyrics themselves are bout respecting yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADUSTIO Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I LOVE IT!!! THE SHE IS NOT ME PART IS THE BEST EVER!!! She is totally dissing the disgusting pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat.Guy Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Will Lil' Mahnsters buy tickets to the MDNAT just to boo Madonna? They can't, the money of the lunch is already being saved for By The Way Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I had completely forgotten that she lied about receiving permission (or praise?) from Madge What a cunt. She deserves all of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narendra Sen Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 They can't, the money of the lunch is already being saved for By The Way Bull. Oh yes, I forgot they're only 13. Poor lil' mahnsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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