Apples388 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Oh and while I'm at it, Alison's shit is 10000 times better than anything that whore Roisin ever put her name too. And yes Head First wasn't great but it still had splashes of brilliance. The other 4 albums are are fabulosities (remixed) though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Oh and sorry Alison but if we're talking copycatting action you go for the lowest common denominator Yes I thought that dress looked familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nothingfails0603 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 I don't see how Katy ever was a poser. At all. Or Ke$ha even. All they've ever even claimed to be are pop stars. Allison meanwhile, blathers on about how she doesn't steal, she does things in a POST-MODERN WAY I think you're right. Katy and Ke$ha are unabashed about what and who they are. I think I just don't like seeing people who don't even know Goldfrapp bashing her being a "nobody" when they don't even know one of her songs (and if they do, it's probably Rocket or Ooh La La or something really generic pop from them). For the past ten years people have been so hung up on how Madonnaesque Britney and Gaga are and I think Alison is closer to the real deal than those two have ever gotten (don't get me wrong, Gaga and Britney have given us some great pop singles). True she is an obnoxious bitch, but isn't that what we loved about Madonna in the 90's? Madonna wasn't nice, she spoke her mind and didn't care if she offended people. So many people go on about how they miss that in the post-Kaballah post-motherhood days of Madge but yet Alison isn't allowed to be like that? I think she's more like Bjork, Tori, Kate, Sia, PJ, Grace and others who are more alternative "divas" who really make it off a cult following and critical acclaim as opposed to living off what number their album is on Billboard or how high their songs are on iTunes, so for that it seems odd that a few people who don't even listen to her (at least acko, Suedey, Crystal Coffin, GSM, Cubby and you among a few others have professed yourselves as liking her music so the ribbing is something different) are attacking her for not having the success that Beyonce or Gaga have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Madonna was a total bitch in the 90s, but she balanced it by being pretty fucking funny and never hesitating to make fun of herself too. I guess I just see Allison as extremely humorless and that puts me right off her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Pain Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Oh and while I'm at it, Alison's shit is 10000 times better than anything that whore Roisin ever put her name too. AS IF!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 I was a big fan of Goldfrapp up to and including Black Cherry. Then kind of fell off the wagon completely after Supernature. I don't think how many records they have sold is at all relevant. Why do people always bring dumb shit like that into discussions? What most people are saying about Alison is wrong. It's as simple as this: she is a grumpy, irritable and miserable middle aged Bitch. I couldn't care less whether or not she likes Madonna. She doesn't dictate my taste in music either way. Dumb shit eh? No sales = no record contract. That's why they've been dropped. Sales matter and this band was hyped and a critics favourite but it didn't transfer into sales. And as I said previously, Goldfrapp could have had an overlap of fans with Madonna and bad mouthing her isn't too bright. I like some of her stuff - love the Penguin Prison Remix of Rocket. I think she was more commercial than Moloko whose unremixed tracks were unconventional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I'm talking about music. I don't work as a record executive so sales don't matter to me at all. Goldfrapp made some amazing music (mainly first 3 albums) but I would say Roisins 'Mommas place' alone is better than anything recent from Goldfrapp. Goldfrapp lost it becaus they didn't know how to explode their creativity into someething commercially viable. They tried to do it and ended up with the result of Supernature. With that result they shocked themselves into a Muted (no record label related pun intended) folllow up which left their music feeling stale. They had intrigue, a solid fanbase and a sense of credibility that they just don't have anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertogerard Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Alison Goldfrapp is just an UNLIKEABLE CUNT, the Madonna bashing is a side product of that. THANK YOU. My feelings exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Dumb shit eh? No sales = no record contract. Exactly. I'm sure Goldfrapp had made lots of good music but if they can't bring in $$$, who's gonna pay their salary, the rental, the operation cost etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I'm talking about music. I don't work as a record executive so sales don't matter to me at all. And you work as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 And you work as? It's not relevant. My point is that when I like music it doesn't matter to me if it's sold 1 or 1 billion copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niitsitapi Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I love their first three albums. As far as Alison's attitude, I have never seen an interview with her. I didn't even know she had anything bad to say about Madonna. Maybe she's bigger overseas but I never see anything about her in the press out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I hink you will find that quite often, people look for something to whinge about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky guy Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 What's this 'first three albums' bollocks? Seventh Tree is an amazing album, people here were RAVING about it when it leaked here; Superstar even suggested changing the forum name to Goldfrappnation! And it was a (Goldfrapp sized) hit wasn't it? I think it even debuted quite high in the States if I remember. Their last was the only major dissapointment as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm a 'longtime fan' but hated seventh tree. It was just double bland to me. Nothing to do with critique or sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I've just read an interview with AG from a couple of months ago and she felt sorry for Madonna being called 'Oldfrapp' and that the press seem to want to pit women against each other. Also she said she wasn't very happy and not in a good place when she was recording previous albums so perhaps it was an off the cuff remark about Madonna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 boring bitch boring music her shit already sounds dated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Didn't Goldcrapp do a video where they replaced Allisons head with a dogs? was a vast improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niitsitapi Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 What's this 'first three albums' bollocks? Seventh Tree is an amazing album, people here were RAVING about it when it leaked here; Superstar even suggested changing the forum name to Goldfrappnation! And it was a (Goldfrapp sized) hit wasn't it? I think it even debuted quite high in the States if I remember. Their last was the only major dissapointment as far as I'm concerned. It was alright but it didn't blow me away. I never felt an urge to listen to it more than a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madonna Bowie Prince Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Ugh, I can't stand her. I still have no idea why people always sing her praises, she doesn't pay hommage with her songs - being inspired is one thing but ripping off is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Pain Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Seventh Tree is really good for a yoga workout (translation: boring) . at least it's useful for SOMETHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I would NOT want to do Yoga to Seventh tree!!! No fucking way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 What's this 'first three albums' bollocks? Seventh Tree is an amazing album, people here were RAVING about it when it leaked here; Superstar even suggested changing the forum name to Goldfrappnation! And it was a (Goldfrapp sized) hit wasn't it? I think it even debuted quite high in the States if I remember. Their last was the only major dissapointment as far as I'm concerned. I agree with you. I know it wasn't all glitter and fairy dust dance music for their core audience, but I think it was a good effort. Their previous two records were like soda pop and Seventh Tree was like broccoli - still tasty but not a sugary rush. I very much appreciated the new direction and introspective lyrics. I am gonna admit that Head First has grown on me a little more in the past few months, but I still feel like they were trying to reclaim lost (commercial) ground by making 80's style dance pop. However, the album does have some fine moments and I am still looking forward to whatever they do next. They are a pretty creative act (musically) in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Coffin Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 "Head First" is the best song of 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 mesmerizing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxcyAQ_BIqk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 mesmerizing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxcyAQ_BIqk BRUTAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 What 'appened!? You have a trouble with da balloon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 I love that Italian Bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Why was she talking about a balloon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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