funkydita Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 but insted of FL they released "One More Chance" in the end. One of her worst ever songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_system Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 One of her worst ever songs. I actually like it, it was something different back then and I love unplugged Madonna! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkydita Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Urgh, I'm HATING youtube and dailymotion at the moment. They won't allow me to upload this video so a mediafire download link will have to do. Here's a minute and a half of a one take version of Secret. It's Madonna (and her truly wonderful tits) in the jazz club scene singing Secret straight to camera. I think I downloaded it from madonnafanzine. I remember this clip was shown on MTV Europe as a teaser for the video (if I recall the song was released to radio some time before the video was finished. Enjoy. Secret One Take Excerpt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny86 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Cosmic, are you sure about that? "OMC" was mainly a UK/Japan release, "LDLHA" was the US single that time. Wouldn't it make more sense if "FL" was meant to be the 5th single of BS as a cross promotion for both BS and STR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_system Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Cosmic, are you sure about that? "OMC" was mainly a UK/Japan release, "LDLHA" was the US single that time. Wouldn't it make more sense if "FL" was meant to be the 5th single of BS as a cross promotion for both BS and STR? Yes, I'm sure about it. Maybe she wanted to release it from BS but STR was released and I'm sure it was included to be released as a single, in fact all the songs on STR were singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkydita Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 When I first moved to London the Secret Junior mixes were HUGE in the clubs, for a while one of them seemed to be playing no matter which night of the week I'd end up at Heaven, midweek, weekend, gay or mixed. Those mixes will always hold a special place in my heart. However, the best remix from the album, and maybe her best remix EVER has to be the Orbital Bedtime Story mix. The Reinvention version, while staying true to it, doesn't touch the original remix which, for me, owns the album version. Oh and "let's get unconscious on E" intentional or not? Anyway, here they are: Secret Junior's Lucious Club Mix, this is the Dan O'Rama video which includes outtakes from the original video. Again it's a medifire download link as I couldn't upload to youtube nor dailymotion. And here's the IMMENSE Orbital remix (the original, not Reinvention version). Madonna Bedtime Stories Orbital mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ursaminorjim Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 And here's the IMMENSE Orbital remix (the original, not Reinvention version). Madonna Bedtime Stories Orbital mix So perfect. But that pic at 0:43? Whoa! Where's that from?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_system Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I agree, the Orbital remix is among her best remixes ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_system Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 So perfect. But that pic at 0:43? Whoa! Where's that from?! It's from the photoshoot by Klein that she did while filming the Vogue video.Some of the pix are on the RIT tour book and some others on Zoot magazine from the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ursaminorjim Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Wow. So many good looks in the Re-Invention films. Thanks, c_s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 BEDTIME STORIES Press Release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurelover06 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 This album also contains her most diverse set of singles from a single album. Without full knowledge, you wouldn't automatically think those 4 songs came from the same album/era. Bedtime Stories was the first Madonna album I purchased, so it holds a special place BTW, it's funny how June has been declared BS Month here since in the official calendar this year, June is a Bedtime Stories pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Pain Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I love how we all have BS sigs/avs! we should do this more often! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The Story behind BEDTIME STORY (the video) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkydita Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I love how we all have BS sigs/avs! we should do this more often! Indeed. Yay to acko for suggesting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_system Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Acko, I just finished reading all that stuff, again, on Icon magazine and now it's here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Acko, I just finished reading all that stuff, again, on Icon magazine and now it's here lol I was just trying 2 upload the 'Notte Rock' interview 4 Bedtime Stories.. but I can't seem 2 connect my VCR 2 my PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_system Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I was just trying 2 upload the 'Notte Rock' interview 4 Bedtime Stories.. but I can't seem 2 connect my VCR 2 my PC Oooh i wanna watch it!I guess I have it on an old vhs somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The StoryBoards 4 the BEDTIME STORY video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coked Up Baby Boy Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 acko is bringing it hard in this thread, cool stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The Story behind BEDTIME STORY (the video) love it acko!!!! xo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabl0114 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I don't really think of that as being a lesbian encounter, I see it as something more maternal and spiritual. There was an article, somewhere, at the time that reckoned Secret alluded to heroin use and that scene was her detoxing (but I don't really read that from it). I also recall an interview (can't remember if it was Spin, Details or The Face) that mentioned some spiritual or psychic maternal figure M had in her life at that point (some old woman in Miami??), I think it somehow relates to this. I need to dig out those magazines to check that reference. I think you're absolutely right about how deeply she was affected by the backlash, there's an almost palpable mix of bitterness, anger, sadness and vulnerability in her work and interviews that we'd not seen before nor since. It's also (ever so mildly) interesting that she got pet dogs during this period, I never had her down as being a dog lover. Maybe she was lonely and yearning for those 3 kids she always said she'd wanted. It was the details interview, with the same photoshoot as ur sig. If im not mistaking they asked her, what would we not find in ur closet? she awnsered GAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Mailing List postings, September/October 1994 PART TWO Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 13:09:19 GMT From: Keith Butler <keith (at) mymach.demon.co.uk> Subject: *** WARNING : Secret (UK) Track Listings *** PLEASE SKIP NOW IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE UK TRACK LISTINGS (Forgive me if somebody has already posted this yesterday!) Cat. No. Track Listing W0268CD 1 secret (edit) 4:30 2 let down your guard (rough mix edit) 4:33 5" CDS 3 secret (instrumental) 5:04 4 secret (lp version) 5:03 --------------------------------------------------------- W0268P a secret 5:03 <-- lp version b let down your guard (rough mix edit) 4:33 7" pic disc --------------------------------------------------------- W0268C same as picture disc CASSINGLE --------------------------------------------------------- Please let everyone know of anymore UK/other formats/versions... Excellent! etc. etc. etc. repeat repeat repeat ... 'let down your guard' is rather strange ! Keith --- Date: 27 Sep 1994 10:16:40 U From: Jeff Jackson <jjackson (at) it.berklee.edu> Subject: Secret Remix Info The following is from Billboard magazine issue October 1, 1994. Dance section: Mo's Secret: We have barely tired of Madonna's genius (and somewhat underappreciated) 1992 opus, "Erotica," and the buttonpushing diva steps forward with a delicious new slice of dancefloor drama. She previews the upcoming Maverick/Sire collection, "Bedtime Stories," due in stores Oct. 25, with "Secret," a romantic kicker that comes in several wildly different incarnations. Co-produced by La M with hip-hop maven Dallas Austin, the lushly layered album mix simmers with a strumming acoustic intro that breaks into a languid funk/R&B beat. As Madonna delivers a solid performance that emphasizes her increasingly strong lower vocal range, a meticulously woven arrangement of quasi-psychedelic colors and raw hip-hop elements percolates. Naturally, the hook is pure pop candy, sticking to the brain after one spin. Citizens of the club community are more likely to subscribe to a pair of outstanding house interpretations by Juniour Vasquez. His "Luscious" mix strobes with vibrant keyboards and an elastic bassline. His treatment of Madonna's vocal is sharply attuned to the unusual levels of a club sound system without burying it behind the bassline. A tight edit of this mix would swing comfortably onto crossover radio airwaves. Vasquez also tends to the requirements of harder heads on the expansive "Sound Factory" version, which runs amok with cathartic tribal percussion and ominous synth loops. Further enhanced by impending mixes by Bizarre Inc,. this single is a prominsing preamble to what will likely be a cool, new chapter in the career of dance music's most successful graduate. --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 17:12:40 EDT From: Le Roi du Monde <gmurray (at) skidmore.EDU> Subject: SECRET single I GOT THE SECRET SINGLE TODAY!!!! The artwork is great, the disc is blue with secret written across it in silver. I am very very very excited!!! It has the album version and instumental. YEAH!!! Madonna ROCKS --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 11:51:45 +0100 From: TENGKU AZAR ISMAIL <tai2 (at) aber.ac.uk> Subject: Let Down Your Guard Hey guys!!! I guess I was the first one in Abersytwyth to actually purchased the single SECRET! I went to the shop as sooa as it's opened (9.00 am) and when I asked for the CD, the cashier had to go in the store and opened the box of new deliveries! Yes, I have the SECRET now!! I bought the CD single - 1. edit 2. Let down your guard (previously unreleased - non-album track) -rough mix edit 3. instrumental 4. album version The cover - if any of you have already had the magazine THE FACE, then, the cover shoot for this single (well, the UK releases at least) is one of the pictures taken during that photo shoot. She's on a sofa, with one arm strectched and another down by her thigh. She's wearing a dress but with the top pulled down to the waist - revealing a white bra. She looks right into the camera rather seriously I think. Her tummy looks weird. Perharps becoz of the muscles. And, as for this new song, LET DOWN YOUR GUARD. I loooovvvvvveeee it! It's very catchy. There isn't any deep meaning to it - well, not as far as i could think of anyway. It's a "rough mix edit" version. And as written on the sleeves, it's a non-LP track. I'm not good at describing things but I'll try my best - it's cute and very R&B-ish. Nice, danceable beats... Hmm... I've already worked the lyrics out... here it is intro ; some talking , perharps over the phone but not at all clear and I can't make anything out of it.. lyrics; won't you come inside and lay down next to my fire can you feel my heartbeat let me show you my desire First you have to tell me please ...a ha... Gonna bring you to your knees ...a ha... Gonna make you scream for more Come inside and lock the door and let down, let down, let down your guard ahhh...ahh... come inside ahhh...ahh... baby it's alright This is not a one night stand I care for you please don't diss(?) me Baby won't you come inside I'll take you for a little ride I wanna touch you there ...a ha... Run my fingers thru' your hair ...a ha... Gonna take you for a ride but you'd have to come inside and let down, let down, let down your guard That's basically the lyrics. It's credited as written by Madonna and Dallas Austin. Same goes for the Secret credits. It just strikes me - she used to use the name Madonna but during Erotica phase ..and also for I'll Remember - she used the name M.Ciccone instead. I wonder why and if there is any significance of these changes. As for the video - haven't heard a thing about it!!!! On MTV Europe, this past few days, they're busy telling us about the new Take That video, but nothing is being mentioned about Secret. I just hope that what happens to I'll Remember won't happen again!!! Well, another video-related news; I heard on CNN showbiz today last week - Madonna is looking for elderly Asian women to appear in her new video Bedtime Stories. Hmm... I thought of my granny for a second... wouldn't it great if Madonna takes her to be in the video - but she's back home in Malaysia so I guess it's not very practical Anyway, see you guy later!! --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 09:34:40 -0500 (CDT) From: BWG001 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU Subject: secret single:( Hi everybody, I just found out that the single of secret does in fact have the instrumental as a b-side and not that new song. Does anybody know if this is on the cd single. All I checked on over the phone was the cassette single. If the new b-side isn't available here in the states, could somebody overseas that would be willing to purchase it for me in exchange for something else please e-mail me. I really want to hear this new song and would be willing to trade a lot of good stuff for it in exchange. --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:48:56 -0500 (CDT) From: royster fredrick don <royster (at) ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: secret single:( Hi Brian, i bought the cd single of secret today, and unfortunately, it's identical to the cassete with the instrumental being the b-side. Us Americans always get screwed over. The U.K. single ahd some song calle dLet Down Your Guard on it. Oh well --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 11:51:45 +0100 From: TENGKU AZAR ISMAIL <tai2 (at) aber.ac.uk> Subject: Let Down Your Guard Hey guys!!! I guess I was the first one in Abersytwyth to actually purchased the single SECRET! I went to the shop as sooa as it's opened (9.00 am) and when I asked for the CD, the cashier had to go in the store and opened the box of new deliveries! Yes, I have the SECRET now!! I bought the CD single - 1. edit 2. Let down your guard (previously unreleased - non-album track) -rough mix edit 3. instrumental 4. album version The cover - if any of you have already had the magazine THE FACE, then, the cover shoot for this single (well, the UK releases at least) is one of the pictures taken during that photo shoot. She's on a sofa, with one arm strectched and another down by her thigh. She's wearing a dress but with the top pulled down to the waist - revealing a white bra. She looks right into the camera rather seriously I think. Her tummy looks weird. Perharps becoz of the muscles. And, as for this new song, LET DOWN YOUR GUARD. I loooovvvvvveeee it! It's very catchy. There isn't any deep meaning to it - well, not as far as i could think of anyway. It's a "rough mix edit" version. And as written on the sleeves, it's a non-LP track. I'm not good at describing things but I'll try my best - it's cute and very R&B-ish. Nice, danceable beats... Hmm... I've already worked the lyrics out... here it is intro ; some talking , perharps over the phone but not at all clear and I can't make anything out of it.. lyrics; won't you come inside and lay down next to my fire can you feel my heartbeat let me show you my desire First you have to tell me please ...a ha... Gonna bring you to your knees ...a ha... Gonna make you scream for more Come inside and lock the door and let down, let down, let down your guard ahhh...ahh... come inside ahhh...ahh... baby it's alright This is not a one night stand I care for you please don't diss(?) me Baby won't you come inside I'll take you for a little ride I wanna touch you there ...a ha... Run my fingers thru' your hair ...a ha... Gonna take you for a ride but you'd have to come inside and let down, let down, let down your guard That's basically the lyrics. It's credited as written by Madonna and Dallas Austin. Same goes for the Secret credits. It just strikes me - she used to use the name Madonna but during Erotica phase ..and also for I'll Remember - she used the name M.Ciccone instead. I wonder why and if there is any significance of these changes. As for the video - haven't heard a thing about it!!!! On MTV Europe, this past few days, they're busy telling us about the new Take That video, but nothing is being mentioned about Secret. I just hope that what happens to I'll Remember won't happen again!!! Well, another video-related news; I heard on CNN showbiz today last week - Madonna is looking for elderly Asian women to appear in her new video Bedtime Stories. Hmm... I thought of my granny for a second... wouldn't it great if Madonna takes her to be in the video - but she's back home in Malaysia so I guess it's not very practical Anyway, see you guy later!! --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 00:35:58 -0500 From: dhanna (at) mail.sas.upenn.edu (David B Hanna) Subject: "Secret" (for your discography file) Madonna -- US "Secret" CD single (same as cassette single) 1. Album Version 5:05 2. Instrumental 5:05 9 18035-2/4 Written by Madonna and Dallas Austin. Published by WB Music Corp./Webo Girl Publishing, Inc. adm. by WB Music Corp. ASCAP/EMI April Music, Inc./DARP Music, Inc. Produced by Madonna and Dallas Austin. Art direction and design by Fabien Baron and Patrick Li at Baron & Baron Advertising. Photography by Patrick Demarchelier. From the Maverick/Sire album _Bedtime Stories_. Available on Cassette and Compact Disc (4/2-45767). My comments: o The "Erotica" single was designed by Fabien Baron also, but with a different Asian collaborator -- Siung Fat Tjia. (A rather silly observation. Maybe Fabien Baron prefers to work with Asians or something.) o Madonna sorta looks like Anna Nicole Smith on the cover... (no flames!) though when I first saw it I was not like, "Oh what a great picture" like I was with "Bad Girl" and the 12" "Express Yourself". o I first heard the whole song on Friday and my immediate reaction was, "Wow, it's slinky." It really struck me, unlike "I'll Remember" did. o About the secret.au file, it sounds much better if you can play it on a SunOS station with audio support. On my Macintosh I could not hear that great bass line but on a Sun WorkStation it seems much clearer and you can hear the bass better. But of course now that you own the single this is not necessary. PS "Let Your Guard Down" sounds like it is a lot of fun... --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 01:30:08 -0400 From: Rob Smith <rob (at) snuffy.penfield.ny.us> Subject: all these new people on the list... It finally sunk in that "Secret" is an incredible song. At first I was like...ick!!! I did the same thing when "Justify" came out. Needless to say, after THE GIRLIE SHOW "Justify" is one of my favorites. I think that because "Secret" is such a new style for Madonna (she's always been kind of pop/R&B - but this even more so) people will initially be thrown off. But I also think her song will gain popularity with more air play. This station in Rochester plays it like 9 times a day!!! And that's just one city! I smell a winner. Janet's new video debuts tomorrow. HELLO? Madonna??? Madonna and touring? I hope not for a while. At least summer. With so much coming out (the song, album, book, etc.) it would be like major overkill. From what I hear though, a new tour would kick ass. I think it would be nice to see her stand still and sing her heart out (maybe just for a little bit). --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 23:37:05 EDT From: Anestler (at) aol.com Subject: I'll Remember Maybe I just couldn't see it, but I'm pretty sure that I'll Remember just dropped OFF the Billboard Top 100 from #50 last week, which seems hardly possible. I bought Secret and I like her vocals and the hook and all, but the song is just so boring and repetitive. There needs to be a big break from the vocals, and I wish all the twangy retro guitars were pumped up because you can't really hear them that well. I was disappointed to note that Secret isn't even a Babyface contribution, so that means there's going to be some more forced R&B on the way. --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 22:47:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu> Subject: I'll Remember Departs In the wake of excitement over "Secret," "I'll Remember" makes a dramatic drop off the Hot 100 chart this week from its postion in the top 60 last week. Given the termination of "I'll Remember's" chart life, it is a good opportunity to celebrate its success after critics said Madonna would never have another hit: "I'll Remember" charted on the Top 40 for 24 weeks, her longest running Top 40 hit. IR also charted on the Hot 100 26 weeks, her second longest stay on the Hot 100 ("Borderline" is the leader with 30 weeks). "I'll Remember" remained in the #2 spot on the Hot 100 for longer than any other single she has released, a solid four weeks. It also hit #2 on the Single Sales, Airplay Monitor, and Top 40/Mainstream charts. "I'll Remember" became Madonna's longest running #1 single on the Adult Contemporary chart, remaining at #1 for four weeks. "I'll Remember" earned a gold certification for sales over 500,000. Though it did not reach #1, "I'll Remember" is probably among Madonna's ten biggest hits in terms of overall chart performance. In closing, I will quote my favorite line from the song because of its personal significance to me: "Say goodbye to not knowing when the truth in my whole life began..." --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:45:56 -0500 (CDT) From: BWG001 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU Subject: I'll Remember Dropping Off the Charts I Believe that Billboard has some new rule they've implemented that makes any single that's been on the chart for over 20 weeks and that then falls below number 50 ineligible for the Top 100 chart and eligible for the recurrent chart. I've noticed this seems to have been done to kep songs like whoomp! there it is from staying in the lower reaches of the chart for countless weeks, thus keepingnew music off the chart. It's too bad Maddy's song had to be dropped but if it's because of a rule then the song still remains popular. Hopefully, it'll show up on the recurrent chart before long and hit number one on it. --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 19:08:16 +0100 From: TENGKU AZAR ISMAIL <tai2 (at) aber.ac.uk> Subject: LOOKS > personally think that madonna is starting to look her age if not older. > maybe it is the way she wears her make-up and hair now, but does anyone else > think this way too. do not get me wrong she is beautiful but starting to > get up there. I agree with you there. However, I don't think it'll make a slight difference to me. But I have the feeling that I might be in the minority here. I mean, people like Billy Joel, Jack NIcholson, Eric Clapton etc. can look like how they look right now and nobody really criticise them ; But when Kathleen Turner started to look a little fat, it's all over the papers. What I'm trying to say is, unfortunately, we are still living in a sexist world. There are soo much pressure on the woman to look good all the time - no matter how old they are. I just hope that Madonna won't be another Cher or Elizabeth Taylor who are trying their everything to look young - and to my eyes at least, end up looking weird. By the way, the cover of the single is one of the pictures featured in THE FACE. --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 19:15 EST From: Adam Perkins <0006921880 (at) mcimail.com> Subject: Secret Finally hearing Secret in it's entirety, the American disc, I have these thoughts to offer: 1) This song just makes me wanna up and dance! It has the ethereal qualities of some of the LAP songs, but the sexual inuendo of JML and Erotica. She has reached a new pinacle, and it's name is Secret! 2) The only thing that detracts from the song is that ill-placed acoustic work at the begining. Tat's easy enough to cut-out... 3) Someone mentioned that they didn't know what the "secret" was. While I abuse, most likely child or spouse, but parts of the song, for lack of a better phrase, seem a little two upbeat. 4) I really like the ending, that funk-groove beat. I love this! --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 17:26:07 -0500 (CDT) From: royster fredrick don <royster (at) ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Secret Hi everyone A major reason I like secret is because of the guitars. I like the acoustic thing in the beginning. A Madonna Unplugged would be very cool. She could focus on singing and the acoustic music would be a nice breather from all the synthesized stuff. --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Glassman <glassman (at) DGS.dgsys.com> Subject: Secret/Let Down Your Guard First - my comments on Secret: I LOVE IT! I can't believe she is working with Dallas Austin of all people! What a wonderful combination! I hope her whole album is in the same R&B style...I suppose the fact that she did some tracks with Babyface is a good indication of this. The song is just terrific. Does anyone know anything about a video? And as for Let Down Your Guard in the USA: my guess is that this will be on the maxi-single whenever it is released. At least I hope so =( --- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 20:43:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Chang <ptahcha (at) uclink2.berkeley.edu> Subject: Secrets! Finally heard it.... and it's REALLY COOL! The demand for the single here in Berkeley was so high that the CD single have to be obtained from the counter rather than in the CD single section. Can't wait until the release of the Maxi-single!! --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 16:38:34 EDT From: August A Galifi <s0185304 (at) hawkmail.monmouth.edu> Subject: Secret Video Premier Well guys this is it: I got this information from MTV OnLine on America OnLine. Secret Premieres: Tuesday, October 4 Times: 6:00 am 8:00 am 9:00 am 11:00 am 1:00 pm 3:00 pm 6:00 pm 9:00 pm Pretty cool eh? Enjoy it guys. --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:12:46 -0700 (PDT) From: ma299aq (at) sdcc14.UCSD.EDU (Archie Medrano) Subject: Re: Secret Video Premier > I got this information from MTV OnLine on America OnLine. > Secret Premieres: > Tuesday, October 4 > Love you all- Augie Cool Augie!!! Thank you very much!!! BTW, I saw the video for Janet's "You Want This" today and it SUCKS!!! Gloria Estefan's new video "Turn the Beat Around" was AWESOME!!! --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Corduan <gcord (at) netcom.com> Subject: The Single/Querulous Enthusiasm So -- we bought it, we heard it (royal "we") -- sounds to me like she had a good night with a pre-op transsexual (it's about time -- if she hasn't, it's past due), or maybe a certifiable hermaphrodite, or maybe even Eva Robins (an obscure reference, but someone out there will know) -- (in fact, Eva Robins deserves to be in a Madonna video, the kind that MTV won't air, the kind that Nightline wouldn't touch even in the public interest, and that can be sold only to those of a certain age (so why weren't the Erotica videos packaged and sold? -- why let MTV limit you or hold your productions hostage?)) That aside, there's also the CD sleeve (kind of hard to get past it, actually) -- I didn't see that recent awards ceremony, so I don't know if this is the same look that was on display there, but if it is, the remarks about the makeup begin to make sense -- it looks like Billy Wilder's Sunset Boulevard by way of the Rue Pigalle -- "From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away." (Raymond Chandler, The High Window, Chapter Five) -- doubtless she's making a Statement -- I hope it's a short one (you know, they had their choice of shots on this -- the one they ran with makes her look as though someone punched her in the left eye) --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 11:36:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Byrne <mbyrne (at) creighton.edu> Subject: Acousitc N Things.... Hello. I would like to add my two cents worth about the topic of acoustic guitars and does it complement Mads' voice. Personally, I beleive Madonna is more of a piano chantuese. However, I would like to hear an acoustic guitar version of Live to Tell w/ her angelic voice and D and N doing back up. Some singers, like Marie Fredrickson of Roxette, can sing well to both acoustic guitars and to a piano. Frankly, Mads should stick with the ol' 88 keys. --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 00:23:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Joseph L Nunez <jn33+ (at) andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: First Releases... I have noted some concern about "Secret"'s upcoming chart success and would like to compare its release, being the 1st off a new album, to others. -"Everybody", the 1st off MADONNA did not hit BBoard's #1 because it was her very first single, that's understood. -"Like A Virgin", the 1st off of LAV was a COMPLETE success! -"Live To Tell", off of TRUE BLUE, it was a new direction for Madonna, but was successful as well! -"Who's That Girl", another success story and no#1! -"Like A Prayer", different and slow I thought, but went straight 2 #1!! -"Vogue", such a great dance track off the bat, it was destined to take to the top!! -"Justify My Love", the most sexual M song up to that date, it was new and unusual too and went to #1 (w/ the help of a controversial video)! -"Erotica", the 1st since "Everybody" not 2 go #1, at about this time, the general public was tired of her Sex Fascination along w/ the tie in to the book. -"Secret", no sexual innuendo's and very different like "Like A Prayer", if the video is a bit of an eye opener w/o lots of "Erotica"-like sex going on, then I'm sure it will be successful. Even Madonna-dislikers like it!! What is everyone else's bet?? --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 19:29:22 EDT From: Anestler (at) aol.com Subject: house mix A fellow Madonnaholic friend of mine told me that Junior Vasquez is playing his club remixes of Secret at Sound Factory in NYC. So if you're in the area it might be worth the $20 to get in (although he's on from like 4am to noon on Saturdays, so going early on Sunday morning might be wise). --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 17:25:28 -0500 (CDT) From: BWG001 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU Subject: mtv news Hi Everybody, There was a short segment on Madonna today on MTV news. They gave the release date for the new album, said when the video would be debuting, and then played a short preview of it. I think it's the part that was already released on america on-line and compuserve because it sounded very similar. It looked to be pretty cool though. Then, they talked about M's brother Martin, who is currently in jail awaiting a drunk driving trial. Apparently, his bail is $2500 but he hasn't been able to raise it (this is rather funny considering how much money M has) but according to Martin's lawyer, Madonna feels that Martin is much safer in jail so that is the reason she hasn't given him the money. Personally, I found Martin to be pretty pathetic, especially when he came to visit M in Truth or Dare and her door had a door not disturb sign...one of my favorite parts! --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 18:00:43 -0500 (CDT) From: royster fredrick don <royster (at) ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN Hi all Just saw the Secret promo here in the U.S. on MTV. It's black and white. I couldn't get a good look, but I saw her singing in a club and a lot of muscular black dudes. Also, did you hear, her brother got arrested on drunk driving charges, and she won;t bail him out. --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 19:21:14 -0400 (EDT) From: JOECICALESE (at) delphi.com Subject: Secret I heard "Secret" on the radio quite a few times yesterday. The song rocks. Madonna's voice sounds great, and the R&B really rocks. The guitar in the beginning is a bit of a surprise. I can't wait for the "Secret" video to be premiered on MTV (anyone know when the video is expected to premier on MTV?). I also got the Madonna album cover and it's great! It's a beautiful pic of Madonna laying on a sofa. You can get it off the Madonna WWW Homepage URL http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/jwb/Madonna.html. --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 17:02:57 +0800 (SST) From: LEONG YUN LETT <isc30352 (at) leonis.nus.sg> Subject: Re: Secret On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, royster fredrick don wrote: A Madonna Unplugged would be very cool. > She could focus on singing and the acoustic music would be a nice > breather from all the synthesized stuff. > Fred > Yes, yes, YES !!!!! I would very very much like to hear her sing unplugged versions of her songs. Her "Rain" performance in Girlie Show was simply fantastic. SHe should do an unplugged for it. Other potentially good Madonna unplugs include Like A Prayer (acapella would be fantastic, with Nikki n Donna), Live To Tell, Crazy For You, Bad Girl, Cherish....... phew, a lot more ! *Sigh*.....if Maddie could see this, she just might take on this suggestion(challenge). --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 15:22:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Corduan <gcord (at) netcom.com> Subject: Secret/On Looking Old Age is a fairly flexible thing in the photographer's studio, and Madonna's motives are seldom simple -- "I'm used, I'm old, fuck me": such seems to be the message of the Secret sleeve -- perhaps one day she'll look like this, perhaps one day she'll be unable to convey any message other than this, perhaps she's afraid of that, perhaps she's intrigued by it, perhaps it's an image her fans and/or the public at large both fear and desire, perhaps it's all of the above, so why not experiment with people's tolerance and her own feelings about herself and go with the photograph that arrived in stores this week -- one suspects she's auditioning a potential future version of herself to herself while provoking both the loyal and the fickle at the same time --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 14:16:49 -0500 (CDT) From: royster fredrick don <royster (at) ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Secret?risk taking hi all I think M is at her best when she decides to takes musical risks on her albums, so I can't wait to hear Bedtimes Stories since she's working with Dallas Austin,Babyface, Nellee Hooper and Bjork. All these people should take Madonna in a new and diffrent direction.(cant wait to hear the Babyface stuff!!) As for Secrets chart sucess, I'm sure it will do well, at least the top 5. its's a helluvea a lot better than Erotica. i'm sorry peopel Erotica was a realllly bad song. If that can go to number one, anything can(what was that my name is dita crap?) Erotica was a boaring album for me. Bad Girl, bye Bye Baby, and Deeper and Deeper were the only songs i reallly like. the other songs were much to mecanical, much to much sequencer stuff,too much SHEP PETTIBONE!!!! That spoken word stuff has to go. The Girlie Show was also dissaponting,She didn't even perform Bad Girl, Like A Prayer, or Express Yourself. i think the songs she really shines aon are risk takers like Material Girl, Live to Tell, Dear Jessie, Love Song, and Bye Bye Baby. All these songs went ouside the normal dance pop mode and were all great. As for the acoustic thing, I love it. I hope tons of guitar and piano are on this album. Secrets great!!!! --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:55:21 -0600 (MDT) From: WYATT GLEN ERIN <wyatt (at) ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Secret in Colorado I bought it yesterday and I really like it. I have a feeling that with further listening I will love it. It is really cool-pretty simple--and a change of pace. I really hope it goes #1. A new album can be very dependent on it's first release. That is why I am nervous. I love the song, but will others? I live in Boulder, CO and our Denver stations have had it in heavy rotation for a few days. I heard it 4 times in a period of 3 hours. Thats pretty awesome. I also heard a new quote that is supposedly from some British interview in the last few days. It went something like this....."Just because I have showed myself naked to the world does not mean that I have exposed my entire soul." I heard that this interview was very revealing..... Why so long to play the new video?????That sucks!!! Rarely yours from Co----GWyatt --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 22:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben Sagel <bsagel (at) emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> Subject: Stuff 1st, I think Secret is pretty cool, but the end is repititious and the "Somethin's comin' over . . . " part gets really good--at the very end. Also, people on Usenet were reporting having seen a brief clip of the video on MTV EUrope of her in a low cut dress and a push-up bra, and she's in front of an audience ot something. Has anyone seen anything like this yet? BYE BYE! --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 12:54:59 +0100 From: TENGKU AZAR ISMAIL <tai2 (at) aber.ac.uk> Subject: WORLD PREMIERE ..TONIGHT! Yes TONIGHT!!!!! In the programme MOST WANTED on MTV EUROPE, which starts at 9.00 pm CET - there'll be the WORLD PREMIERE of .... S e c r e t This is TRUE. I saw the announcement about it this morning. So, you guys in Europe, better be in front of the box tonight!!! T. p/s; they showed some 15 seconds of the clip - and it's black & white - but didn't see a glimpse of her within that 15 seconds! --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 13:15:55 EDT From: August A Galifi <s0185304 (at) hawkmail.monmouth.edu> Subject: Z100 Radio NEW YORK Hey guys- About 15 minutes ago Z100 played Secret. Afterwards the DJ said that they have been bombarded on their email line with request for this song from all over the country from Madonna fans. He also said that the Madonna fans obviously know that Z100 is one of the key stations that can make or break a song. Keep on doing it guys. You guys have been doing well in requesting this song. keep it up. Z100 is a major station in new York city so keep on requesting this song. Their email is: Z100Radio (at) aol.com --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 09:46:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian D Daher <bdaher (at) magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Z100 Requests are *really* honored!! Here's the reply I got from Z100 asking them to play Secret ten times back to back. Finally, a radio station that listens to its listeners!!! Wish I lived in New York!!! Brian Quoted from a message sent by Z100Radio (at) aol.com: :From Z100Radio (at) aol.com Wed Sep 28 23:11:15 1994 :X-Mailer: America Online Mailer :To: bdaher (at) magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu :Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 23:10:16 EDT :Subject: Re: Request : :thanks for the request, madonna's secrets will be played for u.. : :thanks : :jen/z100mailroom --- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 22:31:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu> Subject: SECRET CHART POTENTIAL Before I speak about "Secret's chart potential, I have to say I disagree with those of you who don't like the acoustic guitar introduction of "Secret." I think it is a refreshing change from synthesizers and sets the tone for a very jazzy song. On the instrumental version you can really appreciate the guitar and string flourishes that build towards the end. Given its tremendous potential for crossover success -- Top 40, R&B, Adult Contemporary, Dance -- I think "Secret" should be a big success and is an excellent first release. Following Janet Jackson's approach on her last album by initially releasing a mid-tempo song was smart. The freshness of its sound also provides Madonna with the purificating reincarnation she needed to gain back fans that were not dazzled by the Dita image (sorry souls). So far, we can be certain that Boyz II Men will try to hold fast to their domination of the top for who knows how long...they stopped "Erotica" from reaching the Top 2 and could easily do it again. Hopefully people will realize that they are the tired act that they are in time. "Endless Love," by Luther Vandross and Mariah Carey is also a strong competitor. I never like to see fresh songs take a back seat to remakes, but in this case it may happen. Mariah is a little on the down-swing though. Her last single did not even make the Top 10. Janet Jackson's latest, "You Want This," is also in the running. I don't think it is much of a threat to "Secret" for three reasons: (1) It is the sixth release off janet. and six seems to be pushing her luck (although her sixth release on Rhythm Nation, "Love Will Never Do..." did hit #1); (2) I think her sex appeal was a bit exhausted with her last release, "Anytime Anyplace;" and (3) The track is not new to the airwaves. It there is an amazing radio remix, there is nothing fresh to offer to radio programmers. I will have to look more closely at the chart for other competitors. What does everyone else thing? Let's hope for an amazing debut next week! My prediction is #12. --- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 11:53 EST From: Adam Perkins <0006921880 (at) mcimail.com> Subject: Secret Video Hey, all. Just saw the "Secret" video promo. It looks great! Mads is looking much like her former self, looking like "The Queen in a Green Dress" from Ex- press Yourself. The voice is such a tease! Tuesday morning, 6am!!! Oh, BTW, wish me luck: I'm in a murder-mystery dinner theater production ton- ight. I'm (insert phony India accent) Crocdile Ghandi, native bearer...oh mon dieu! --- Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 16:28:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Bashar Barazi <ubbarazi (at) uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> Subject: Secret/Radio Hi you guys.. Here is an update on radio stations palying (or not for that matter) Madonna's Secret: The only station that has it on its play list is Mix 101.9 FM. They actually premierd the song on Wedensday Sept 28th, but with no special announcment. The DJ just said that they are playing brand new songs, and Secret just happened to be one of them.. I also observed that they are playing a lot of her stuff (e.g. Express Yourself, Vogue, I'll Remember, Open Your Heart..), maybe in an attempt to draw attention to Madonna and thus the new song... Anyhow, it was nice to hear the song, again and again, and...... -Can't wait till they start playing it at clubs!- --- Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 15:24:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Michael Clark <cmclark (at) leland.Stanford.EDU> Subject: "Secret" meaning (?) I was just listening to "Secret" today, and I was thinking about what the lyrics might mean. Someone said that Madonna said that only a woman could understand the lyrics, and another person talked about masturbation. I think perhaps the song is about a woman discovering that her boyfriend/lover masturbates ("my baby's got a secret"), and then learning the pleasure that she can give herself through masturbation ("happiness lies in your own hand"). The song seems to be about getting in touch with your own sexuality through masturbation, which then enables you to be a better lover ("I was never loving anyone until I learned to love myself"). Does this storyline seem probable to anyone? Or is it just so obvious that no one's bothered mentioning it, making me look like a big idiot for "discovering" it? --- Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 01:35:00 UTC From: r.juzwiak (at) genie.geis.com Subject: "Secret" ta-DOW! Big babies- On 10/8's Billboard chart, Madonna's new single "Secret" debuts at #30! Yea! I know some of y'all wanted a Top 15 debut, but really, it's not too easy for a song to debut in the Top 15 anymore, being that if the song has enough airplay points, and the single will be released the Tuesday prior to the chart, it's elligible for the chart. Expect a BIG jump next week, possibly Top 5. "Secret" is going to #1, being that all the competition is easing up ("Endless Love" actually FELL a spot, although it still does have it's bullet). --- Date: Sun, 02 Oct 94 13:43:58 EDT From: Anestler (at) aol.com Subject: 1st promo CD5 The Secret promo CD5 PRO-CD-7199 plays the "edit" and album versions, yet once again it's not an edit, but is a fade, beginning around 4:05 and ending around 4:30. The disc has the Maverick logo on it, and the case has a white disc-sized sticker w/ "Secret" and "madonnasecret" written on it in pink and blue letters. There will certainly be other promos with remixes. I really like Let Down Your Guard. It doesn't really sound like her singing after a while. Actually the song's sufficiently cheesy that it could pass for Janet Jackson. --- Date: Mon, 03 Oct 1994 10:21:20 +0100 From: TENGKU AZAR ISMAIL <tai2 (at) aber.ac.uk> Subject: OFFICIAL UK TOP 40 S E C R E T IS the highest new entry in the Official UK Top 40 countdown this week. After a week of release, the single debuts at NO. 5. Next week? Hmm.. i would expect it to go little higher but No. 1 ? - not sure! T. p/s; I'll remember, Rain, fever were all the highest new entry in their respective chart debut weeks... not sure about the others....and they STILL say that Madonna is losing it.... I think it's amazing how badly people want her to fail... sad, really. But of course, she ain't going nowhere!!! --- Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 20:08:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu> Subject: SECRET MEANING I feel very strongly that it has nothing to do with masturbation or simply gaining sexual pleasure. Unless Madonna has lost her talent for righting songs, I don't think she would ever mix the sunlit vocals and R&B accompaniment of this song with a theme relating strictly to masturbation or sexual fulfullment, but a much broader sense of spiritual fulfullment. I think the "Secret" Madonna is thinking about is closer to her sentiment in "I'll Remember." I think her baby's secret is the knowing the way to understand her heart ("You understood what I never wanted to say"), but more importantly giving her the right kind of love such that she can put fate in her own hands ("Happiness lies in your hands"). She speaks of a lover, or perhaps a personified spirit, that turns everything around and helps her find joy in life ("Things haven't been the same since you came into my life"). Sex is part of this, but not everything. The themes that Madonna is singing about in "Secret" is similar that in "I'll Remember" because its one that has taught her to love her self and have control of her own life. Think about "happiness lies in your own hands" and "until I learned to love my self I was never never loving anyone else" in light of "I'll Remember the way that you changed me now that I am standing on my own" and "outside I learned to teach my heart to sing." both "Secret" and "I'll Remember" have themes of the importance of lovings oneself in order to love others and to grasp hold of "happiness" ("happiness lies in your hands" from "Secret") or similarly truth in life ("Say goodbye to not knowing when the truth in my whole life began" from "I'll Remember"). Just my theory about "Secret." Anyone agree or disagree? --- Date: Mon, 03 Oct 1994 00:16:01 -0500 (CDT) From: BWG001 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU Subject: Stop Requesting Secret!!! id <01HHTHTKDHKG0027G1 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>; Sun, 2 Oct 1994 23:40:02 CDT 3 Oct 1994 00:39:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 03 Oct 1994 00:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Z100Radio (at) aol.com Subject: Re: secret! To: BWG001 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU WARNING TO MADONNA usenet FANS: we will consider pulling the song off the playlist if you continue to abuse our email. --- Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 14:14:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu> Subject: Z100 Requests/Charts Given their threats, I would recommend laying off on the Z100 requests. I don't think that they will really take "Secret" off the play list but I do think we have given them the point that we would like to hear it and they have gotten the point. As many of you may have noticed, it has become quite an issue. Tomorrow, I will resume my weekly Billboard chart analyses like I did last Spring with "I'll Remember" since every seemed to appreciate them. Suffice it to say that the record industry and Billboard magazine are hobbies of mind and I enjoy charting the progress of a Madonna single. Thanks to whoever discovered "Secret's" debut position (I am a little dissapointed though). ______________________ Edward Sadtler ehs12 (at) columbia.edu Columbia University New York, NY ______________________ ------------------------------ Date: (null) From: (null) [mention is made in passing of the Wall Street Journal article of a few months back: `If Madonna Bombs, Warner's Got Worries' -- to resume:] "Sales of Madonna's albums have been on a gently declining path; whereas her second album Like a Virgin (released in November '84) sold seven million worldwide, each of her last five albums have sold less than the one before. Industry rumours have it that Warner Records will only press three million copies of her new album, due out in the autumn." MORE TO COME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ugly Hecty Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 LOL, we've definitely time-warped back into the realm of 1994. A much better era musically and visually. We should have a Bedtime Stories wallpaper background on MNation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyralexxx Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 thanks for those scans. they are amazing and never seen before for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly Hecty Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I've even taken that gorgeous Madge animation as my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 We're all cute and shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocka Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 It's great to finally see some love for this album. I think it gets overlooked by a lot of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 *ahem* And the award for "Best recreation of the Bedtime Stories album cover by a latter-day Madonna incarnation" goes to... Scene from "Me Against The Music" Damn near uncanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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