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Madonna Greatest Hits: Hopefully Out By Fall

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any news on the GH?

actual news that matter

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My love's REVOLVAH

My sex is a KILLAH do you wanna DIE HAPPY do you wanna DIE HAPPY

Let's hope it never gets released :lmao:

:rotfl:

It sounds like the musical equivalent of Body of Evidence. The tune seems catchy tho :sneaky:

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Disc One (79:48)

Her entire (amazing) run of consecutive Top 5 singles 1984-1989 (this was broken by "Oh Father" in late 1989 which stalled at #20), plus "Holiday" (#16) and "Into The Groove" (NC) which are signature songs and her two biggest recurrent airplay hits.

1. Holiday

2. Borderline

3. Lucky Star

4. Like A Virgin

5. Material Girl

6. Crazy For You

7. Angel

8. Into The Groove

9. Dress You Up

10. Live To Tell

11. Papa Don't Preach

12. True Blue

13. Open Your Heart

14. La Isla Bonita

15. Who's That Girl

16. Causing A Commotion

17. Like A Prayer

18. Express Yourself

19. Cherish

Disc Two (73:18, leaving nearly 7 minutes for two new tracks)

A concise, no-fat representation of her biggest and best known (stateside) '90s and '00s output, with room for two new tracks.

1. Vogue

2. Justify My Love

3. This Used To Be My Playground

4. Erotica

5. Deeper And Deeper

6. I'll Remember

7. Secret

8. Take A Bow

9. You'll See

10. Frozen

11. Ray Of Light

12. Beautiful Stranger

13. Music

14. Don't Tell Me

15. Die Another Day

16. Hung Up

17. 4 Minutes

18. [new song]

19. [new song]

This would be trickier for the UK. For one, #1 singles "Sorry" and "American Pie" (damn it, a cover) would have to be included. Anyone want to take a stab at it?

I'd go along with this exactly. Except you don't have enough space for 2 new songs, so I'd cut Die Another Day. It was much hated when it came out in certain quarters and isn't the best remembered Bond theme.

I have a feeling that some of the 80s hits will be cut :americanlife: Angel and Commotion seem most vulnerable.

It's a pity Oh Father and Drowned World couldn't be added to give the album more breadth and show her more thoughtful side.

If you're wanting to do a UK version, then cut the flop I'll Remember and replace with Sorry. Fuck American Pie, # 1 or not, it was a cover :fag:

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Not saying she won't do it (who would have thought she'd extend the S&S Tour, after all), but I envision a universal tracklisting for the GH. SHe had one for TIC, STR and GHV2- why do something different now?

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I have a feeling that some of the 80s hits will be cut :americanlife: Angel and Commotion seem most vulnerable.

From the 80s, I only expect the singles she performed live in this decade (with maybe "OYH" added). That alone can fill up a CD. There won't be room for the likes of "Angel", "Gambler", "True Blue", "Cherish" and the WTG stuff.

She has like 70 singles but on 2 CDs they can only use like 35 songs. 2 of them will be new songs, and we all know she's gonna make room for her favorite flops: "Human Nature", "Drowned World", "American Life" & "Miles Away". A LOT of singles will be ignored...

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I'd go along with this exactly. Except you don't have enough space for 2 new songs, so I'd cut Die Another Day. It was much hated when it came out in certain quarters and isn't the best remembered Bond theme.

I have a feeling that some of the 80s hits will be cut :americanlife: Angel and Commotion seem most vulnerable.

It's a pity Oh Father and Drowned World couldn't be added to give the album more breadth and show her more thoughtful side.

If you're wanting to do a UK version, then cut the flop I'll Remember and replace with Sorry. Fuck American Pie, # 1 or not, it was a cover :fag:

:fag: If the two new songs run in the respectable 3:20 range (like many recent singles have) they would fit perfectly without having to drop anything from disc two.

Definitely agree, due to the tight time restrictions, "American Pie" and "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" truly don't belong. They're covers of already famous recordings, not MADONNA! songs.

And which flopped harder in the UK... "Take A Bow" or "I'll Remember"?

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And which flopped harder in the UK... "Take A Bow" or "I'll Remember"?

According to that sales list they published on her 50th birthday, both of them did practically the same in the end, just above 100k.

If there's an UK version, then nothing from Bedtime Stories or American Life should be included on that, because none of them were big hits. Even "Die Another Day" is just barely among her top 40 best selling UK singles.

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Where can one find a complete list of these UK singles sales? *raises brow*

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Where can one find a complete list of these UK singles sales? *raises brow*

http://michael-madonna.blogspot.com/2009/0...65-uk-hits.html

1 ..Into The Groove................1985....843,561

2..Like A Virgin..................1984....768,129

3..Holiday........................1984....752,968

4..Crazy For You..................1985....662,481

5..Papa Don't Preach..............1986....629,386

6..True Blue......................1984....534,728

7..Hung Up........................2005....517,036

8..Beautiful Stranger.............1999....513,992

9..Like A Prayer..................1989....513,231

10.Frozen.........................1998....508,296

11.Vogue..........................1990....484,308

12.4 Minutes......................2008....430,000 (sales up to Aug 2008: 400,784)

13.La Isla Bonita.................1987....421,760

14.Music..........................2000....400,531

15.Material Girl..................1985....389,999

16.American Pie...................2000....380,937

17.Who's That Girl................1987....376,498

18.Don't Cry For Me Argentina.....1996....338,494

19.You'll See.....................1995....302,432

20.Borderline.....................1984....298,388

21 Gambler........................1985....292,341

22 Live To Tell...................1986....271,897

23 Erotica........................1992....270,800

24 This Used To Be My Playground..1992....270,427

25 Ray Of Light...................1998....262,514

26 Dear Jessie....................1989....250,769

27 Causing A Commotion............1987....229,934

28 Justify My Love................1990....228,683

29 Hanky Panky....................1990....205,733

30 Dress You Up...................1985....204,970

31 Angel..........................1985....198,650

32 Express Yourself...............1989....194,102

33 Cherish........................1989....192,891

34 Open Your Heart................1986....186,742

35 Don't Tell Me..................2000....179,939

36 Sorry..........................2006....178,963

37 Power Of Goodbye/Little Star...1998....175,095

38 Die Another Day................2002....167,863

39 Give It 2 Me...................2008....148,000 (sales up to Aug 2008: 100,986)

40 Deeper And Deeper..............1992....136,854

41 Rescue Me......................1991....134,764

42 Rain...........................1993....130,771

43 Nothing Really Matters.........1999....128,137

44 Me Against The Music...........2003....126,136

45 The Look Of Love...............1987....121,439

46 Secret.........................1994....117,957

47 Lucky Star.....................1984....117,470

48 Take A Bow.....................1994....102,739

49 I'll Remember..................1994....100,090

50 Bedtime Story..................1995.....97,428

51 Drowned World/Subst For Love)..1998.....90,651

52 You Must Love Me...............1996.....90,428

53 What It Feels Like For A Girl..2001.....86,771

54 Fever..........................1993.....86,077

55 Human Nature...................1995.....80,685

56 Another Suitcase Another Hall..1997.....75,233

57 Bad Girl.......................1993.....74,915

58 American Life..................2005.....72,260

59 Get Together...................2006.....67,163

60 Hollywood......................2003.....59,633

61 Oh Father......................1996.....58,730

62 One More Chance................1996.....56,851

63 Jump...........................2006.....52,038

64 Love Profusion.................2003.....41,025

65 Miles Away ....................2008.....12,500

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Thank you! OUCH at "Miles Away."

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:wow: at Gambler.

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any news on the GH?

actual news that matter

no.anyway not anytime soon i guess. i am pretty sure it will all be after the tour.

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In a lot of euro countries 'Gambler' was even bigger than 'Crazy For You' but Holidayperson won't believe me.

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In a lot of euro countries 'Gambler' was even bigger than 'Crazy For You' but Holidayperson won't believe me.

:lol:

I'm in the US and knew "Gambler" just as well as I did "Like A Virgin" or "Into The Groove" thanks to a certain little television network. I was surprised when I discovered it wasn't a single here.

I always include it on my otherwise US-centric multi-disc compilations along with "Fever" and "I Want You" for their video releases.

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In a lot of euro countries 'Gambler' was even bigger than 'Crazy For You' but Holidayperson won't believe me.

Is it not ACCLAIMED enough ??? :gent:

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According to that sales list they published on her 50th birthday, both of them did practically the same in the end, just above 100k.

If there's an UK version, then nothing from Bedtime Stories or American Life should be included on that, because none of them were big hits. Even "Die Another Day" is just barely among her top 40 best selling UK singles.

Sure Hollywood and AL didnt sell hugely but they still reached #2 in the UK (higher than TAB) I think Hollywood should be squeezed in on there and it would make more sense if the songs from 2002-2009 got more priority as they havent had a chance to be on any other compilation and will be more recent in peoples memories.

Also those figures can't be used to compare DAD to older hits as that was before illegal downloads took over.

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I remember being SHOCKED and PLEASANTLY Suprised that Hollwood got to Number 2

It was a given BEYONCE BEYONCE would be No 1 with Crazy in Love, but i was expecting Hollywood to go in at Number 7 or summat

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Okay. I think I've worked it out so that the only missing MADONNA! UK singles --those which were also released in the US and which sold over 100,000-- would be "Hanky Panky," "Rescue Me," "Rain," "The Power Of Good-bye," "Nothing Really Matters" and "Give It 2 Me". Taking time restraints into consideration, I think we can just about all live with that.

Breaking down the UK sales list based on my previously posted track listing....

FIRST TIER: The 14 strongest sellers in the UK; sold between 400,000 and 900,000

843,561 Into The Groove

768,129 Like A Virgin

752,968 Holiday

662,481 Crazy For You

629,386 Papa Don't Preach

534,728 True Blue

517,036 Hung Up

513,992 Beautiful Stranger

513,231 Like A Prayer

508,296 Frozen

484,308 Vogue

430,000 4 Minutes

421,760 La Isla Bonita

400,531 Music

All of these made the track listing.

SECOND TIER: 5 additional singles respectfully sold between 300,000 and 400,000

389,999 Material Girl

380,937 American Pie

376,498 Who's That Girl

338,494 Don't Cry For Me Argentina

302,432 You'll See

Of these, only the two aforementioned covers are (purposely) omitted from my previous track listing. Thus far, of Madonna's own original hits, the 17 biggest UK sellers are already included.

THIRD TIER: 11 more singles, all sold between 200,000 and 300,000

298,388 Borderline

292,341 Gambler

271,897 Live To Tell

270,800 Erotica

270,427 This Used To Be My Playground

262,514 Ray Of Light

250,769 Dear Jessie

229,934 Causing A Commotion

228,683 Justify My Love

205,733 Hanky Panky

204,970 Dress You Up

All but three of these (two non-US releases "Gambler" and "Dear Jessie" plus "Hanky Panky") already appear on my track listing, bringing our totals to 25 of her 30 biggest UK sellers.

FOURTH (and final) TIER: 18 additional singles that sold between 100,000 and 200,000

198,650 Angel

194,102 Express Yourself

192,891 Cherish

186,742 Open Your Heart

179,939 Don't Tell Me

178,963 Sorry

175,095 The Power Of Goodbye

167,863 Die Another Day

148,000 Give It 2 Me

136,854 Deeper And Deeper

134,764 Rescue Me

130,771 Rain

128,137 Nothing Really Matters

121,439 The Look Of Love

117,957 Secret

117,470 Lucky Star

102,739 Take A Bow

100,090 I'll Remember

Of these, 11 are included on the track listing, 7 are not.

Only 12 of 48 UK singles that sold over 100,000 copies are missing and everything is (in my opinion) well repesented from a "hits" aspect. As loomer suggested, if we found the most logical way to include "Sorry" (fourth tier seller, but an original #1 all the same) I feel my previous track listing could work for both markets.

Ah, but how to do it...

How about a similar list of US singles sales?

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Look at those sales

what a FLOP ARTIST

WIsh she had a million seller

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I've done estimates for U.S. singles sales, but since no official figures are available for her pre-SoundScan-era singles, it wouldn't be entirely accurate. Plus, airplay always has been part of the major charts, unlike the UK, so...

acko, I never said anything about "Gambler" not being more successful than CFY in some Euro countries. So whatchu talkin' about? :) Worldwide, I'm sure, though, CFY is the more revered, popular track.

BTW- per that Music Week article on her singles sales (which includes digital downloads), M had sold as many singles as the No. 2 and 3 females combined (Kylie Minogue and Whitney Houston). Minogue had sold 9.05m through that time.

Would GI2M be as high as 148K by now?

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NO ONE is ever gonna suprass her single sales in the UK, not now anyway with the charts like they are

The old girl has DONE GOOD there

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^Yah- and among all acts, only Cliff Richard (21.21m), The Beatles (20.71m) and Elvis Presley (20.66m) had sold more.

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OK, here's my take on a tracklisting.

This was an extremely difficult task and was made all the more difficult by the fact that two new tracks will definitely appear on the collection. I made a general rule of including all US #1 singles and I ended up with all but one UK #1 (True Blue), too. Gems such as Cherish, Causing A Commotion, Burning Up, Lucky Star, Get Together and Rain should be on there, but there's just not enough space. A 3CD collection would come close to including all of her greatest singles, but even adding another 19 songs would leave out some great music. A 3CD collection would be ideal, though....maybe Warners will stun as all and head down that road?! I won't go into detailed reasons for each of the tracks - I don't want to bore anyone! I wanted to include at least a couple of tracks from each studio album and I stuck to this.

For 19 tracks to fit on each CD, they'll need to be single/radio edits in most instances, even though something like Hung Up should feature the full album version (the radio version is what most people would be familiar with, though). The collection absolutely must be sequenced in chronological order - hopefully this is a no brainer for Guy and Madonna!!!!

CD1

Holiday

Borderline

Like A Virgin

Material Girl

Into The Groove

Crazy For You

Dress You Up

Live To Tell

Papa Don’t Preach

Open Your Heart

La Isla Bonita

Who’s That Girl

Like A Prayer

Express Yourself

Vogue

Justify My Love

This Used To Be My Playground

Erotica

Deeper and Deeper

CD2

I’ll Remember

Secret

Take A Bow

You’ll See

Don’t Cry For Me Argentina

Frozen

Ray of Light

Beautiful Stranger

American Pie

Music

Don’t Tell Me

Die Another Day

American Life

Hung Up

Sorry

4 Minutes

Give It 2 Me

New Track

New Track

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Guest Not4Pussies

ur tracklist seems good and reasonable

hope it is something like that

although i dont really see American Pie making it

i dont think Madonna likes the song

What It Feels Like... might take its place

and it would be awesome if it all starts with Holiday

and ends with Celebrate

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Holiday to Celebrate does sound good :thumbsup:

As for AP, Madonna does actually like it - she just left it off GHV2 as "punishment" for its appearance on "Music", which she allowed herself to be talked into in spite of her judgement.

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What if she does a Whiteny Blouston and releases a disc of slow tracks (with that im sorry song as a new track) and one of dance tracks(with celebrate)? also not go by just obvious hits but by what sounds good within The context of the album. Of course all tracks would be retouched and slightly remixed. I know it will never happen. Just thought it would be fun to speculate. Any thoughts?

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^I'm not sure about that, she has not been into slow tracks lately, plus all the new songs are supposedly uptempo, so it would look weird if the uptempo disc had 2-3 new songs, but the ballad one didn't.

Oh and by the way, since the Sticky & Sweet DVD is featuring both "You Must Love Me" & "Don't Cry For Me Argentina", I can see both of them being included, possibly on the expense of "You'll See".

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Sure Hollywood and AL didnt sell hugely but they still reached #2 in the UK (higher than TAB) I think Hollywood should be squeezed in on there and it would make more sense if the songs from 2002-2009 got more priority as they havent had a chance to be on any other compilation and will be more recent in peoples memories.

Then it means "Hanky Panky" should be there as well, because it reached #2. It would have been immortalized as one of her #1s if it wasn't for...

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:rotfl:

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you all begun with another tracklists and variations on the same theme. :lol:

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