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BOXSCORE: S&S grossed $407.7 million!!! Attended by 3.5 million people!

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Only 68,000 in Belgium? Everyone was saying 80-85,000. Oh well, great numbers.

I have read Guy said that the crowd in Belgium is 85000,,

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^ They probably sold more than the announced threshold. Ya never know...Anyways point is impressive numbers!

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Those boxscores confirm how how big of a market the UK is for her. Where else could she play arenas and gross figures like that?? It makes Belgium look like a comparative flop when, of course, its anything but. Long live the GBP!

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so, cancelled performances will not be counted right?

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Not to change the subject, but has anyone else seen U2's first reported grosses? They're HUGE. I wonder if it is because their set-up allows more people into the stadiums? Their attendance numbers are very large as well.

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^ Correct.

drat.... oh well...

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madonna should perform in exotic places too. new delhi, cairo, bejing, even dubai city. europe is way too much . america is probably enough as well. how can she dismiss india or china. those 2 alone are a third of the global pop.

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madonna should perform in exotic places too. new delhi, cairo, bejing, even dubai city. europe is way too much . america is probably enough as well. how can she dismiss india or china. those 2 alone are a third of the global pop.

China has way too many restriction on what she can and can't perform.

Whereas for Muslim countries, she may need to change her wardrobe entirely 'cos revealing too much skin in these countries is a big NO NO.

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Not to change the subject, but has anyone else seen U2's first reported grosses? They're HUGE. I wonder if it is because their set-up allows more people into the stadiums? Their attendance numbers are very large as well.

Correct whether it's an arena tour or stadium tour a center stage always allows for about 20-25 percent more seating and it makes more seats valuable at higher price points. Although U2 are letting about 10,000 tix on sale for 35-55 dollars many of the second tier and 3 tier seats that are in some capacity next to the center piece are 250 dollars. When the stage is setup more on one end of the stadium they put the whole back side and first 60 percent of the arena at top tier price. That is seated tickets. So basically they are charging 250 bucks for high stadium seating. Something that Madonna gets lamblasted for and it's not nearly as bad as this U2 tour. Personally I don't mind so much but many people people get made at prices for Madonna's stadium tours but I have always said that she isn't the only artist that does this and there are some that are worse. This being example A. Even if you are on the third tier in the first few rows of a stadium you are still really high up and seeing "ants" as people say... Anyways, just my thoughts.

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Not to change the subject, but has anyone else seen U2's first reported grosses? They're HUGE. I wonder if it is because their set-up allows more people into the stadiums? Their attendance numbers are very large as well.

Yes - the 360 degrees set up allows them to fit a lot more people into each venue.

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China has way too many restriction on what she can and can't perform.

Whereas for Muslim countries, she may need to change her wardrobe entirely 'cos revealing too much skin in these countries is a big NO NO.

the Philippines will welcome her with open arms and she can charge $400 and it will still sellout... no restrictions will be imposed... :asian:

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Correct whether it's an arena tour or stadium tour a center stage always allows for about 20-25 percent more seating and it makes more seats valuable at higher price points. Although U2 are letting about 10,000 tix on sale for 35-55 dollars many of the second tier and 3 tier seats that are in some capacity next to the center piece are 250 dollars. When the stage is setup more on one end of the stadium they put the whole back side and first 60 percent of the arena at top tier price. That is seated tickets. So basically they are charging 250 bucks for high stadium seating. Something that Madonna gets lamblasted for and it's not nearly as bad as this U2 tour. Personally I don't mind so much but many people people get made at prices for Madonna's stadium tours but I have always said that she isn't the only artist that does this and there are some that are worse. This being example A. Even if you are on the third tier in the first few rows of a stadium you are still really high up and seeing "ants" as people say... Anyways, just my thoughts.

Very good point. I was looking at the Boxscore numbers for U2 in Paris, and I was actually shocked to see the highest ticket price (which they list) was $347.91 and the lowest was $41.75.

By contrast, Madonna's highest and lowest ticket prices (listed by Boxscore anyway) were $216.23 and $27.10, respectively.

This means U2 charges more than Madonna on even the cheap seats! I really can't believe people blast Madonna either. She's cheaper than U2 (supposed champions of ticket prices among fans).

EDIT: I am talking about Paris only. I will still have to see what U2 charges at other venues Madonna has already played.

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The highest ticket price for the London shows was 175 pounds which converts to $285 US today, when I bought my tickets back in February it was even more.

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The highest ticket price for the London shows was 175 pounds which converts to $285 US today, when I bought my tickets back in February it was even more.

^ I was talking solely about the Paris shows.

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The highest ticket price for the London shows was 175 pounds which converts to $285 US today, when I bought my tickets back in February it was even more.

That is still not as high as some of the U2 seated tickets in a stadium setting...

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^ I was talking solely about the Paris shows.

It's true of almost all of the U2 dates. In America the stadium seats are 250 dollars that are in the first 60 percent or so of the stage end of the stadium. I say stage end because in almost of all the stadiums they are playing they aren't actually setting up the stage so that it is in the center. It's being set up on one end and the open back allows the back portion of the stadium to be seated and have a higher seat value as well.

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New Billboard article on Madonna. I don't have a subscription anymore so I can't view the whole article but here is the first part that the public can view. http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_dis...c59a9be9c5f39d0

Madonna Tops Strong Midyear List Of Top 25 Tours

July 20, 2009 - Touring

By Ray Waddell, Nashville

Despite the uncertain state of the economy, Billboard's midyear touring charts indicate a pattern of success that could well carry through the end of the year.

And, even more so than usual, the top 25 list is dominated by acts that first achieved success a quarter century ago or more, including Madonna, Tina Turner, AC/DC, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, Elton John, Fleetwood Mac, Metallica, the Dead, Neil Young, Iron Maiden and Leonard Cohen. That said, there's still a freshness to the chart, with some names not typically associated with the box-office elite.

The time period for the midyear numbers is Dec. 6, 2008, through June 20, 2009. When tardy reporting is factored in, overall numbers stack up favorably to the same time period last year. In the period covered, global concerts grossed $1.8 billion and drew 30.6 million attendees from 8,744 shows reported. That's down slightly from the $1.9 billion for the period in 2008, when 9,172 shows were reported. And attendance is up so far this year by almost 20,000. While that figure amounts to just about one good sold-out arena date, the fact that ticket sales are up with some 450 fewer shows reported is impressive, given global market conditions.

In terms of the upper echelon of midyear tours, the top tier is all about the divas:

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I also want to point out how crappy is it that with the new billboard.com they don't let the public see the top ten boxscores for the week anymore. you have to subscribe to see any of them! Argh!

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I found this instead of old table. This is last week boxscore.

They didn't report attendance of each venue. :confused:

May be we must pay to see the old table. :bruised:

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U2 tops this week's Hot Tours ranking with the first boxscore totals reported for their massive "360" tour" which kicked off in Barcelona's Camp Nou on June 30th. With six total sold-out shows from the first three stadiums on the tour, the band grossed more than $55.8 million. The group's top take comes from Paris with over $20.9 million earned at the Stade De France. A total of 186,544 tickets were sold for both performances. The "360" Tour will be playing European stadiums through August before kicking off North American dates in September.

Bruce Springsteen and Madonna both make a huge impact on this week's Hot Tours chart with European dates of their own. Springsteen has grosses from five venue reports this week with performances in Germany, Austria, Denmark and Ireland. Since the beginning of June, his "Working on a Dream" tour has grossed $44 million with 460,504 tickets sold. Madonna is back with the first 2009 dates of her "Sticky & Sweet" tour that kicked off in August of 2008. Since its inception, "Sticky & Sweet" has garnered more than $288 million at the box office.

Rank Artist/Event

Total Gross

Show Dates

Show Venue/City (Shows/Sellouts)

Total Attendance (Capacity)

1 U2

$55,897,056

June 30-July 12

Camp Nou, Barcelona (2/2)

Stadio San Siro, Milan (2/2)

Stade De France, Paris (2/2)

522,405 (522,405)

2 BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & THE E STREET BAND

$24,344,556

July 2-12

Olympiastadion, Munich (1/0)

Commerzbank-Arena, Frankfurt (1/1)

Ernst Happel Stadion, Vienna (1/0)

MCH Outdoor Arena, Herning, Denmark (1/1)

RDS Arena, Dublin (2/2)

248,540 (257,412)

3 MADONNA

$18,197,512

July 4-11

O2 Arena, London (2/2)

Manchester Evening News Arena, Manchester, U.K. (1/1)

Palais Omnisports Bercy, Paris (1/1)

Werchter Festival Park, Werchter, Belgium (1/1)

125,161 (125,161)

4 AMERICAN IDOLS LIVE

$3,485,297

July 5-12

Rose Garden, Portland (1/0)

Tacoma Dome, Tacoma, Wash. (1/0)

General Motors Place, Vancouver (1/0)

ARCO Arena, Sacramento (1/0)

Oracle Arena, Oakland (1/0)

HP Pavilion, San Jose (1/0)

55,613 (70,102)

5 IL DIVO

$2,687,627

July 1-11

Fox Theatre, Atlanta (1/1)

Borgata Casino, Atlantic City (1/1)

Wolstein Center, Cleveland (1/0)

Rosemont Theatre, Rosemont, Ill. (1/1)

Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul (1/1)

Fox Theatre, St. Louis (1/0)

Sprint Center (1/0)

31,472 (33,815)

6 GREEN DAY

$1,363,920

July 10-13

Fargodome, Fargo, N.D. (1/0)

Target Center, Minneapolis (1/0)

United Center, Chicago (1/1)

29,721 (36,060)

7 RASCAL FLATTS

$784,886

July 11

Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, N.Y. (1/0)

17,387 (20,983)

8 CROSBY, STILLS & NASH

$696,131

July 1-10

Royal Albert Hall, London (1/1)

Manchester Evening News Arena, Manchester, U.K. (1/0)

8,931 (9,144)

9 DANE COOK

$620,000

June 26

Amway Arena, Orlando (1/0)

9,669 (17,634)

10 BRAD PAISLEY

$540,491

July 10

DTE Energy Music Center, Clarkston, Mich. (1/1)

15,059 (15,059)

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New Billboard article on Madonna. I don't have a subscription anymore so I can't view the whole article but here is the first part that the public can view. http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_dis...c59a9be9c5f39d0

Here's the entire article...FYI

TOURING TITANS

July 25, 2009

Madonna Tops Strong Midyear List Of Top 25 Tours

Ray Waddell

Despite the uncertain state of the economy, Billboard's midyear touring charts indicate a pattern of success that could well carry through the end of the year.

And, even more so than usual, the top 25 list is dominated by acts that first achieved success a quarter century ago or more, including Madonna, Tina Turner, AC/DC, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, Elton John, Fleetwood Mac, Metallica, the Dead, Neil Young, Iron Maiden and Leonard Cohen. That said, there's still a freshness to the chart, with some names not typically associated with the box-office elite.

The time period for the midyear numbers is Dec. 6, 2008, through June 20, 2009. When tardy reporting is factored in, overall numbers stack up favorably to the same time period last year. In the period covered, global concerts grossed $1.8 billion and drew 30.6 million attendees from 8,744 shows reported. That's down slightly from the $1.9 billion for the period in 2008, when 9,172 shows were reported. And attendance is up so far this year by almost 20,000. While that figure amounts to just about one good sold-out arena date, the fact that ticket sales are up with some 450 fewer shows reported is impressive, given global market conditions.

In terms of the upper echelon of midyear tours, the top tier is all about the divas: Madonna ($84.7 million), Turner ($80 million) and Britney Spears ($61.5 million).

Madonna's Sticky & Sweet tour is an unqualified blockbuster, having taken in $270 million so far, with another $130 million expected from the additional summer European leg. A mark of $400 million would put Sticky & Sweet in the top three highest-grossing tours of all time, an "incredible result," according to Arthur Fogel, chairman of global touring for tour producer Live Nation. "Madonna is bigger than ever."

Realistically, it's not much of a surprise to find Madonna, Springsteen, Celine Dion, Joel & John, Coldplay, the Eagles, Kenny Chesney, Metallica, Jonas Brothers and other proven acts among the top tours, given their track records. And even though acts like AC/DC, Fleetwood Mac, Turner and the Dead tour less frequently, their success at the box office really is expected.

But they delivered. Metallica, for example, has reported more than $45 million and 740,000 in attendance from 41 shows. "When a band as vital as Metallica hits the road, it should be no surprise as to the level of excitement that is generated," says Adam Kornfeld, Metallica's agent at Artists Group International. "This band is massive worldwide."

Perhaps more noteworthy on this midyear chart are the appearances of such acts as Cohen, Lil Wayne, Andre Rieu, Ill Divo, Oasis and the Pussycat Dolls, acts that are either making impressive upward moves in touring or caught the business somewhat off guard by the level of their success. Also, though her place in pop history is assured, the fact that Spears would do as well as she has was anything but a given before the tour went on sale.

"Many in the industry, including some in my own company, thought we were crazy when we stepped up and made a pre-emptive bid for Brit's tour," says Randy Phillips, CEO of AEG Live, the promoter of Spears' tour.

"Having had the opportunity to hear the new music, meet Britney at the video shoot for 'Womanizer' and read the omnibus marketing plan that [manager] Larry Rudolph and Jive Records had prepared, it was a no-brainer for me," Phillips says. "As far as the reason the tour became an out-of-the-park home run, [it's because] the public's interest in Britney Spears has never waned, through the hit records and the tabloid tales. So the timing of the launch was absolutely perfect to sell both the new album and the concert tickets."

Also encouraging is the appearance in the top 25 of Lil Wayne at No. 15. Hip-hop touring artists are anything but perennials among the year's top tours, but with 40 shows reported for the period, a gross of $24 million and attendance approaching 400,000, Wayne is demonstrating a commendable persistence in working the road. As a result of his touring, the artist is tapping into his popularity and laying the foundation for a live career that can last much longer than radio and retail popularity.

There are some other pleasant surprises, at least to some, amid the top tours for the midyear. For example, who would expect to see a Dutch violinist/conductor listed alongside such pop/rock icons as Spears, Madonna, AC/DC and Springsteen, in any context?

"It is definitely remarkable [that Rieu is on this list], but it shows that classical music, the way we play it, can be accessible for everybody," says Roel van Veggel, CFO/concert tour director for Andre Rieu Productions.

Van Veggel says Rieu performs 110-130 concerts annually worldwide, including indoor (theaters, arenas, domed stadiums), outdoor on nontraditional stages and in sports venues, and in such massive stadiums as Sydney's Etihad Stadium (formerly the Telstra Dome) and Stade de France in Paris.

Rieu has toured most European countries, North America, Asia and the Pacific Rim, and he's breaking new territories like South America and South Africa. "In some countries [such as Japan and Korea], we do have promoters and in some we do everything within our company," Van Veggel says.

For "quality control" reasons, all musicians are on the Andre Rieu Productions payroll, and the touring group can include from 120 to 550 personnel. "We never [use] local musicians nor local symphonies," van Veggel says. "In this way you work intensively together and you are a well-oiled machine."

Certainly more mainstream than Rieu but definitely under the radar for many, at least in the United States, is Oasis, which reported a healthy $17 million gross and 347,700 tickets sold from 33 shows reported.

"We were very pleased with the results from this cycle," says John Dittmar, agent for Oasis at Pinnacle Entertainment. "Oasis has always been, bottom line, about great songs that people want to hear. Add to that their mystique, selective touring [and] good bills, and the shows ultimately become more of a special event than just another tour."

The ongoing star power and sheer persistence in working the road for some acts is a testament to work ethic and the value of the entertainment offered to fans. Between his work with Elton John and his solo touring, Joel rang up $64 million in grosses for the period.

Springsteen, out for more than two years in working the "Magic" and "Working On a Dream" albums around the world, remains on a tear, reporting $52.4 million in grosses and nearly 600,000 in ticket sales from 31 shows. Chesney, who's just getting started, is already at $22 million and 328,915 tickets from just 20 shows; Iron Maiden tops $20 million and 400,000 in attendance from 18 shows; and Young has rung up $22 million and attracted 288,908 fans to 33 concerts. The box-office clout of the Eagles remains as potent as ever, with $16.7 million from just 12 shows reported.

And then there's the next generation. Coldplay ($24.3 million) and Nickelback ($19.4 million) are two of the most consistent rock headliners to develop in a decade. Il Divo, at more than $31 million, is now solidified as a major headliner in a wide range of international markets, and the Jonas Brothers are tearing it up, with nearly $20 million from a mere 12 shows.

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^ Thank you for posting. Great article!

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I also want to point out how crappy is it that with the new billboard.com they don't let the public see the top ten boxscores for the week anymore. you have to subscribe to see any of them! Argh!

well, now i'm fine....it's 2 days that i was searching for the boxscore chart in this awful restyled site......

:abuse:

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^ know the new layout sucks. I sent them a message on the feedback link on the page. You should do the same.

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so is that a sort of confirmation from LN that S&S has officially crossed the $400M mark in sales?

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so sad those forums are getting so quiet

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Will she still make 400m? With the cancellation of Marsielle? The 400m was thrown about before she canceled there.

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^ I think it will be close. I think we are looking at somewhere between 380-405 million. Regardless the success is astounding.

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Will she still make 400m? With the cancellation of Marsielle? The 400m was thrown about before she canceled there.

Marseille wasn't reportedly selling that great anyway - perhaps on par with Zaragoza (according to rumors). So she probably lost around $4-5 million off the gross by canceling that show. Something tells me she'll be fine though and still hit $400 million - especially if Tel Aviv's shows both sell-out (ticket prices there were insane for the Gold Circle).

FYI - each of the remaining shows will have to gross an average of $4.84 million in order for her to hit $400 million. I am having some doubts about Eastern Europe hitting those marks (as well as Udine and Zaragoza), but the Scandinavian shows should pull in some impressive numbers that might off-set the losses elsewhere.

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