Madonna-Greece Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) 7/23/2008 3.683M 937 spins 7/24/2008 3.728M 940 spins 7/25/2008 3.746M 943 spins 7/26/2008 3.722M 947 spins 7/27/2008 3.624M 926 spins Edited July 28, 2008 by Madonna-Greece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest demitri Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'd honestly say move on to the next single whatever that is, but no one knows yet, and this song REFUSES to just die. Hell, 4Minutes is still on the charts. it's not dead yet. This song was pretty much almost dead on arrival, and it's just done. And BTW, checking on Madonna's chart history, she hasn't really been radio's "darling" since the early 90s really, and it's 2008 now. Sure she's had a hit here or there every several years, but the majority of her singles underperform, and more flop than hit. So isn't is safe to say already that Madonna is OVER in the US? I personally think that if it wasn't for Madonna's little electronica re-invention with ROL/MUSIC....this would have happened after Evita sometime. That era revived her career, but that era is now passe too. So what we're seeing is, exactly what would have inevitably happened. Aging, same-old-Madonna, gets tired, radio loses interest public loses interest, and that's that. If she wants to remain relevant she's going to have to reinvent herself in interesting and innovative ways. She's going to have to pull Cher's Believe with every album to pretty much stay relevant, but she doesn't want to, she doesn't have to, and perhaps she's not capable of that. 4Minutes succeeded because of its sound, Justin/Timbaland. Madonna tried to make herself as YOUNG as humanly possible and as hip as possible, to make the song passable to American radio, and it worked, but radio and the public were still aware that this was a 50 year old woman, and that it could have been a disaster, but it somehow worked. That's why Give it 2 Me is being ignored. It's 50 yo woman, singing another random song. NO one cares and no one can relate to it. How can people relate to give it 2 me???? How?? I can't. Beat Goes On is a bit more radio friendly , and so is devil. Madonna really needs to do something out of this world again. She did it with ROL and it was an uber success, and then that's it. Music was just a boring, slow, 10-track album, then she had more flop movies, boring and uninspired images, the travesty that was American Life, then she went on to DISCO.... I mean does anyone expect anything different???? Radio is about NEW and young, but if Madonna produces something FRESH and INTERESTING,....it will get played. 4M worked but was NOT fresh. Give it 2 me is not as good as 4M. When I first heard Cher's BELIEVE, I didn't even know who CHER WAS. I was young. I LOVED the song, and kept playing it and bought the remixes, and then saw this woman,....didn't look too old or too bad, just very overdone, then I learned that she was 50 something, and I'm like wow,....this song is so hot, go her. It had the vocoder which was somewhat new at the time, and I tihnk her song was the first mainstream hit song that had the use of the vocoder. It was a gorgeous and beautiful song. Madonna needs something big like that. Hung Up kind of was, Music kind of was, 4Minutes wasn't and GIVE it 2 me, CLEARLY ISN'T. Agreed. Same sentiments here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigham Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 you no have full chart? And I have said numerous times in this thread, Mediabase took away the full charts. All we have now is the Top 40 and the Top 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 mtz posted this: 7/23/2008 3.683M 937 spins 7/24/2008 3.728M 940 spins 7/25/2008 3.746M 943 spins 7/26/2008 3.713M 939 spins but I see this on the Mediabase Song Analysis 7/26/2008 3.722M 947 spins Is it an update? most probably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 6/16/2008 0.520M 215 spins 6/17/2008 0.749M 236 spins ------------------------------------------------ 6/18/2008 0.824M 267 spins 6/19/2008 0.931M 300 spins 6/20/2008 0.993M 341 spins 6/21/2008 1.052M 373 spins 6/22/2008 1.435M 377 spins 6/23/2008 1.145M 437 spins 6/24/2008 1.016M 472 spins ------------------------------------------------ 6/25/2008 1.059M 510 spins 6/26/2008 1.029M 540 spins 6/27/2008 1.099M 575 spins 6/28/2008 1.874M 609 spins 6/29/2008 1.891M 627 spins 6/30/2008 1.861M 655 spins 7/01/2008 1.960M 684 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/02/2008 2.120M 721 spins 7/03/2008 2.298M 749 spins 7/04/2008 2.444M 753 spins 7/05/2008 2.641M 779 spins 7/06/2008 2.877M 802 spins 7/07/2008 3.135M 829 spins 7/08/2008 3.275M 843 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/09/2008 3.386M 841 spins 7/10/2008 3.404M 846 spins 7/11/2008 3.398M 870 spins 7/12/2008 3.497M 903 spins 7/13/2008 3.533M 915 spins 7/14/2008 3.565M 919 spins 7/15/2008 3.594M 928 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/16/2008 3.636M 938 spins 7/17/2008 3.679M 945 spins 7/18/2008 3.544M 931 spins 7/19/2008 3.575M 923 spins 7/20/2008 3.642M 947 spins 7/21/2008 3.701M 957 spins 7/22/2008 3.728M 954 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/23/2008 3.683M 937 spins 7/24/2008 3.728M 940 spins 7/25/2008 3.746M 943 spins 7/26/2008 3.713M 939 spins 7/27/2008 3.624M 926 spins so... any news about the video shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LoveAngelMusicBaby Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) I need to get a life? Hahaha. Babes, I can type 3 pages worth of material in under 5/10 minutes. That doesn't take up much of my time. It's called typing skills. Though I do share your sentiments, if they weren't so...negative. Anyone who spends even THAT much effort on a hell, any type of a forum, must have a bit too much time on their hands. And I do :-P god forbiddddddd. :eye roll: Edited July 28, 2008 by LoveAngelMusicBaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LoveAngelMusicBaby Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 On a more important, and less jaded/b89chy/have nothing to offer but negativity (typical of NJ residents, and american gay ppl in general):cough:: it's so true :Cough:,.......... WHYYYYYY does anyone know why, Give it 2 me is flopping like it is, and not doing so well in the REST of the world? Let alone the US. It only peaked at #7 in the UK which I'm sure is still good, but that's the same peak as get together over there, and sorry even hit #1. What's so wrong with this song? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iasonas Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I became a member at allaccess.com and there you can see the airplay charts! For those who cannot see the mediabase! top40/pop Look at numbers 36 and 37!! Her third and her first!!!! Rank Spins lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move Aud/mill 1 1 JESSE MCCARTNEY Leavin' 10871 10819 52 63.787 2 2 KATY PERRY I Kissed A Girl 10127 10071 56 62.375 5 3 CHRIS BROWN Forever 9133 8332 801 56.932 3 4 RIHANNA Take A Bow 8318 9437 -1119 48.347 4 5 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Pocketful Of Sunshin... 8056 8508 -452 42.519 6 6 METRO STATION Shake It 7047 6855 192 37.878 7 7 LEONA LEWIS Bleeding Love 5711 6472 -761 37.376 14 8 KID ROCK All Summer Long 5521 4871 650 27.403 16 9 KARDINAL OFFISHALL Dangerous (f/Akon) 5503 4552 951 31.510 13 10 PUSSYCAT DOLLS When I Grow Up 5433 4888 545 34.710 Rank Spins lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move Aud/mill 9 11 GAVIN DEGRAW In Love With A Girl 5254 5111 143 23.872 10 12 3 DOORS DOWN It's Not My Time 5138 5095 43 23.852 8 13 COLBY O'DONIS What You Got f/Akon 4975 5497 -522 26.990 18 14 JONAS BROTHERS Burnin' Up 4755 4396 359 25.554 19 15 RIHANNA Disturbia 4595 4060 535 27.520 12 16 LIL WAYNE Lollipop f/Static Ma... 4448 4960 -512 28.317 11 17 DANITY KANE Damaged 4401 4966 -565 30.720 24 18 NE-YO Closer 4226 3173 1053 30.519 15 19 RAY J/YUNG BERG Sexy Can I 4122 4669 -547 25.483 17 20 COLBIE CAILLAT Realize 3869 4414 -545 21.455 Rank Spins lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move Aud/mill 22 21 COLDPLAY Viva La Vida 3818 3345 473 22.605 25 22 JORDIN SPARKS One Step At A Time 3777 3016 761 23.251 20 23 PLIES Bust It Baby (Part 2... 3752 4002 -250 20.672 26 24 SECONDHAND SERENADE Fall For You 3443 3014 429 20.490 21 25 NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK Summertime 3121 3632 -511 18.780 23 26 MILEY CYRUS 7 Things 2620 3286 -666 12.683 27 27 ESTELLE American Boy f/ Kany... 2617 2027 590 20.395 30 28 THREE 6 MAFIA Lolli Lolli (Pop Tha... 2401 1804 597 12.354 29 29 PARAMORE That's What You Get 2361 1950 411 14.921 28 30 BOYS LIKE GIRLS Thunder 2184 1963 221 11.020 Rank Spins lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move Aud/mill 38 31 LEONA LEWIS Better In Time 1938 1047 891 11.545 31 32 FLOBOTS Handlebars 1830 1683 147 6.630 34 33 FLO RIDA In The Ayer f/ Will.... 1807 1506 301 10.686 32 34 SARA BAREILLES Bottle It Up 1653 1542 111 6.241 33 35 DAVID COOK Time Of My Life 1620 1516 104 7.933 37 36 MARIAH CAREY I'll Be Lovin' U Lon... 1517 1092 425 7.306 35 37 MADONNA 4 Minutes 1148 1368 -220 6.085 36 38 V.I.C. Get Silly 1140 1154 -14 3.640 40 39 WE THE KINGS Check Yes Juliet 1074 895 179 6.917 Spins lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move Aud/mill 41 41 SEPTEMBER Cry For You 1040 883 157 10.870 44 42 DAVID BANNER Get Like Me f/Chris ... 891 730 161 4.696 43 43 ONE BLOCK RADIUS You Got Me 850 740 110 4.614 42 44 SAVING JANE Supergirl 849 829 20 3.044 45 45 LESLEY ROY I'm Gone, I'm Going 711 681 30 1.737 46 46 MADONNA Give It 2 Me 638 639 -1 2.985 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So stable! Only 1 spin down!lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) 35 37 MADONNA 4 Minutes 1148 1368 -220 6.085 46 46 MADONNA Give It 2 Me 638 639 -1 2.985 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So stable! Only 1 spin down!lol I really expected that at the very least GI2M would hit Top 40 at pop. Part of its failure in USA (and perhaps also elsewhere) must be credited to the fact that 4M still lingers. Thanks for the chart btw. Edited July 28, 2008 by DreamTheater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I really expected that at the very least GI2M would hit Top 40 at pop. Part of its failure in USA (and perhaps also elswhere) must be credited to the fact that 4M still lingers. Thanks for the chart btw. Nah. Plenty of songs by other artists still linger while another one shoots up. GI2M simply bombed. Lack of any kind of push from Warner or Madonna can also be to blame. Beat Goes On is the only hope to saving this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Nah. Plenty of songs by other artists still linger while another one shoots up. GI2M simply bombed. Lack of any kind of push from Warner or Madonna can also be to blame. Beat Goes On is the only hope to saving this album. Yes, but Madonna isn't a US radio favorite artist and couldn't easily have two simultaneous hits. Also 4M had a peculiar release pattern, it was released to radio and as a digital download at the same time. For radio stations that take their time to add songs it may be still considered current. I'm not saying that GI2M should have set the charts on fire or anything but come on, Top 40 at Pop was a realistic expectation, with or without promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etips Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Yes, but Madonna isn't a US radio favorite artist and couldn't easily have two simultaneous hits. Also 4M had a peculiar release pattern, it was released to radio and as a digital download at the same time. For radio stations that take their time to add songs it may be still considered current. I'm not saying that GI2M should have set the charts on fire or anything but come on, Top 40 at Pop was a realistic expectation, with or without promotion. I disagree. GI2M was, IMO, a very bad dare. Most of us predicted doom when it was announced that this was going to be the next single. I didn’t expect it to latch on anywhere—expect for with, maybe, club play. Contemporary radio certainly wasn’t going to play it. On the contrary, if BGO had been released while 4M was just slowing down, I could see Madonna possibly having two singles in the top forty simultaneously…but that wasn’t going to happen with a song like GI2M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have maybe said this at least 100x now lol , like many others here, that as much as a I love and still love GI2M, it shouldnt ever have been released as a single in the US. One has to be objective, not delusional to think GI2M wouldve gotten any kind of mainstream love on US radio. WW/ non US release, fine, but not the US. BGO I believe wouldve done better. Dunno by how much, doesnt matter as it most definitely would've outperformed Gi2M on radio and sales. Everything about BGO has potential US hit, yes even for Madonna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
encore Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) i think 4 minutes was for u.s. and give it to me for europe (and casual u.s. fans). unfortunately give it to me didnt get the attention it deserve from europe either. this project is pretty much over in u.s., general public didnt like it as much as we did and hoped. moreover, lack of interest in promotion both from madonna and wbr resulted in lower sales too. Edited July 28, 2008 by encore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fak Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 i doubt any of madonna's songs will be a success on pop radio....she is too old sadly....i think you guys worryy about her being played on radio for under 16's than she does......why should she mould her music to be played on crappy pop radio in the USA ......im so glad madonna does nt go into the studio thinking "i should reject this sound because its too undergroud for out of date usa radio" we would nt have half of her greats today i think she should push herself on stations that will play her reagrdless of her age. i thin she should release a remixed version of miles away....by frankie knuckles...like toni braxton and mj did in the 90's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesshot Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Good song, terrible choice as a single. She could have kept the momentum going( as Green Day did with their last CD) and release the most commercial song. She didn't. It has nothing to do with 4M being popular still. Wow, the HC era started out so promising with a smash hit single in the US and renewed interest in Madonna. She has a chance to recapture this with the tour and promo with the tour. Will she come through???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest demitri Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Good song, terrible choice as a single. She could have kept the momentum going( as Green Day did with their last CD) and release the most commercial song. She didn't. It has nothing to do with 4M being popular still. Wow, the HC era started out so promising with a smash hit single in the US and renewed interest in Madonna. She has a chance to recapture this with the tour and promo with the tour. Will she come through???????? And a stupid video. I mean seriously, it was just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesshot Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 And a stupid video. I mean seriously, it was just plain stupid. Yes, then there is that. You would think she would love making videos since its like making a small movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezwer Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 And a stupid video. I mean seriously, it was just plain stupid. *omg* people in here still talks about videos like it's the 90's the video is NOT the reason this song flopped. Most videos nowdays are bad, meaningless bland shit no matter if it's a flop song or a hit song. Videos does NOT have the impact they had! Do you think radio didn't want to play the song because of a lame video? PLZ! it has nothing to do with the video. The song was just not for the ignorant US radio. It's as simple as that. And obviously lack of promo too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigham Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Peaking... (46) 46 MADONNA Give It 2 Me 563 562 +1 2.871 +7 Spins +2 Bullet +0.022 Audience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 6/16/2008 0.520M 215 spins 6/17/2008 0.749M 236 spins ------------------------------------------------ 6/18/2008 0.824M 267 spins 6/19/2008 0.931M 300 spins 6/20/2008 0.993M 341 spins 6/21/2008 1.052M 373 spins 6/22/2008 1.435M 377 spins 6/23/2008 1.145M 437 spins 6/24/2008 1.016M 472 spins ------------------------------------------------ 6/25/2008 1.059M 510 spins 6/26/2008 1.029M 540 spins 6/27/2008 1.099M 575 spins 6/28/2008 1.874M 609 spins 6/29/2008 1.891M 627 spins 6/30/2008 1.861M 655 spins 7/01/2008 1.960M 684 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/02/2008 2.120M 721 spins 7/03/2008 2.298M 749 spins 7/04/2008 2.444M 753 spins 7/05/2008 2.641M 779 spins 7/06/2008 2.877M 802 spins 7/07/2008 3.135M 829 spins 7/08/2008 3.275M 843 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/09/2008 3.386M 841 spins 7/10/2008 3.404M 846 spins 7/11/2008 3.398M 870 spins 7/12/2008 3.497M 903 spins 7/13/2008 3.533M 915 spins 7/14/2008 3.565M 919 spins 7/15/2008 3.594M 928 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/16/2008 3.636M 938 spins 7/17/2008 3.679M 945 spins 7/18/2008 3.544M 931 spins 7/19/2008 3.575M 923 spins 7/20/2008 3.642M 947 spins 7/21/2008 3.701M 957 spins 7/22/2008 3.728M 954 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/23/2008 3.683M 937 spins 7/24/2008 3.728M 940 spins 7/25/2008 3.746M 943 spins 7/26/2008 3.713M 939 spins 7/27/2008 3.624M 926 spins 7/28/2008 3.606M 922 spins so... any news about the video shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iMisto Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 so... any news about the video shoot? Madonna still does videos?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 *omg* people in here still talks about videos like it's the 90's the video is NOT the reason this song flopped. Most videos nowdays are bad, meaningless bland shit no matter if it's a flop song or a hit song. Videos does NOT have the impact they had! Do you think radio didn't want to play the song because of a lame video? PLZ! it has nothing to do with the video. The song was just not for the ignorant US radio. It's as simple as that. And obviously lack of promo too. I couldnt agree more. videos are lame ducks nowadays regarding any "major" impact, compared to the 80s and 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boytoyville Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 ^Technically more people are watching music video's more than ever because of the internet. The video is as imprtant as ever,it's just that it's being viewed through a different medium now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 everyone these days makes crappy videos as long as you have one, then your fine quality of the video has nothing to do with chart success bjork makes some of the best videos ever, but do you see her charting high in the states, or atleast, get airplay? have you seen gnarls barkley's new vid, "who's gonna save my soul?" a FANTASTIC video but thats not gonna help it get radio airplay heck, to be honest, it will get very little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 6/16/2008 0.520M 215 spins 6/17/2008 0.749M 236 spins ------------------------------------------------ 6/18/2008 0.824M 267 spins 6/19/2008 0.931M 300 spins 6/20/2008 0.993M 341 spins 6/21/2008 1.052M 373 spins 6/22/2008 1.435M 377 spins 6/23/2008 1.145M 437 spins 6/24/2008 1.016M 472 spins ------------------------------------------------ 6/25/2008 1.059M 510 spins 6/26/2008 1.029M 540 spins 6/27/2008 1.099M 575 spins 6/28/2008 1.874M 609 spins 6/29/2008 1.891M 627 spins 6/30/2008 1.861M 655 spins 7/01/2008 1.960M 684 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/02/2008 2.120M 721 spins 7/03/2008 2.298M 749 spins 7/04/2008 2.444M 753 spins 7/05/2008 2.641M 779 spins 7/06/2008 2.877M 802 spins 7/07/2008 3.135M 829 spins 7/08/2008 3.275M 843 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/09/2008 3.386M 841 spins 7/10/2008 3.404M 846 spins 7/11/2008 3.398M 870 spins 7/12/2008 3.497M 903 spins 7/13/2008 3.533M 915 spins 7/14/2008 3.565M 919 spins 7/15/2008 3.594M 928 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/16/2008 3.636M 938 spins 7/17/2008 3.679M 945 spins 7/18/2008 3.544M 931 spins 7/19/2008 3.575M 923 spins 7/20/2008 3.642M 947 spins 7/21/2008 3.701M 957 spins 7/22/2008 3.728M 954 spins ------------------------------------------------ 7/23/2008 3.683M 937 spins 7/24/2008 3.728M 940 spins 7/25/2008 3.746M 943 spins 7/26/2008 3.713M 939 spins 7/27/2008 3.624M 926 spins 7/28/2008 3.606M 922 spins 7/29/2008 3.609M 940 spins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevieve Vavance Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I think # 46 in the US is alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotstickyandsweet Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 still holding on....Bring on TBGO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Downtown Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 What a damn roller coaster with this song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigham Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 according to Madonnatribe: MadonnaTribe News has just heard from reliable sources that it's 200% confirmed at this moment that Miles Away is going to be the third single off the Hard Candy album even though we don't have any info on the video at this point. Stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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