Camacho Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 From mtzlplk's last update 3/17/2008 4.113M AudImps 413 spins 3/18/2008 7.292M AudImps 802 spins 3/19/2008 10.350M AudImp 1246 spins 3/20/2008 13.762M AudImp 1734 spins 3/21/2008 17.341M AudImp 2236 spins 3/22/2008 21.316M AudImp 2825 spins 3/23/2008 24.528M AudImp 3320 spins 3/24/2008 24.657M AudImp 3534 spins 3/25/2008 25.364M AudImp 3796 spins 3/26/2008 26.652M AudImp 4071 spins 3/27/2008 27.908M AudImp 4339 spins POP - 131 stations (from yesterday's 129, there are around 140+) RHYTHMIC - 37 stations (from yesterday's 40, there around 100+ max) HOTAC - 22 stations (from yesterday's 23, there are around 110+ max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Robot Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Here are actual daily audience impressions (using a little math from those numbers) to give a sense of how it's performing on a daily basis: 4.113 3.179 3.058 3.412 3.579 3.975 3.212 4.242 3.886 4.346 4.668 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValeRus Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 thank you, thats what i wanted to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 3/17/2008 4.113M AudImps 413 spins 3/18/2008 7.292M AudImps 802 spins 3/19/2008 10.350M AudImp 1246 spins 3/20/2008 13.762M AudImp 1734 spins 3/21/2008 17.341M AudImp 2236 spins 3/22/2008 21.316M AudImp 2825 spins 3/23/2008 24.528M AudImp 3320 spins 3/24/2008 24.657M AudImp 3534 spins 3/25/2008 25.364M AudImp 3796 spins 3/26/2008 26.652M AudImp 4071 spins 3/27/2008 27.908M AudImp 4339 spins 3/28/2008 28.502M AudImp 4555 spins POP - 130 stations (from yesterday's 131, there are around 140+) RHYTHMIC - 37 stations (from yesterday's 37, there around 100+ max) HOTAC - 24 stations (from yesterday's 22, there are around 110+ max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullaBarbie Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 3/17/2008 4.113M AudImps 413 spins 3/18/2008 7.292M AudImps 802 spins 3/19/2008 10.350M AudImp 1246 spins 3/20/2008 13.762M AudImp 1734 spins 3/21/2008 17.341M AudImp 2236 spins 3/22/2008 21.316M AudImp 2825 spins 3/23/2008 24.528M AudImp 3320 spins 3/24/2008 24.657M AudImp 3534 spins 3/25/2008 25.364M AudImp 3796 spins 3/26/2008 26.652M AudImp 4071 spins 3/27/2008 27.908M AudImp 4339 spins 3/28/2008 28.502M AudImp 4555 spins POP - 130 stations (from yesterday's 131, there are around 140+) RHYTHMIC - 37 stations (from yesterday's 37, there around 100+ max) HOTAC - 24 stations (from yesterday's 22, there are around 110+ max) I hope it doesnt peak on the 30m like HU. Good news is that URB is starting to pick it up a little. I just dont understand why RHY is so slow on this track? I mean its basicly a Justin, the RHY darling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I hope it doesnt peak on the 30m like HU. Good news is that URB is starting to pick it up a little. I just dont understand why RHY is so slow on this track? I mean its basicly a Justin, the RHY darling... as i've said before... MADONNA's name alone can overpower any of her collaborators... and MADONNA's just not accepted at these black-leaning stations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I hope it doesnt peak on the 30m like HU. I think when all is said and done 4 MIN will have had a nice peak the surpasses HU. Again this song is only a week old!!! The fact of the matter is most people have yet to even hear the song yet. I think once the video hits that will be the big thing that will give this song the huge push that it needs. Plus the fact that Madonna needs to get out there and start promoting a bit. I have a question though...Its seems like just about every pop station is on board with this song. I doubt that urban will jump on it which will leave Madonna which a big disadvantage in terms of audience impressions (of course this is THE reason why the hot 100 is so biased toward urban acts since urban dominates radio) but what is the average peak for a huge pop song on the radio to have? Take for example Pinks Who Knew. I doubt urban touched that (though I could be wrong) but it was a massive hit, so what was its peak audience imp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Robot Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 The top song on the pop radio chart typically has around 60m+ impressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 The top song on the pop radio chart typically has around 60m+ impressions. God. How come billboard does not see something wrong with that!!!?? Anyway, I think a peak of around 50 million is possible for 4 MIN......I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 from botoxic March 28, 2008 Total Spins: 4682 12 at AC 251 at HotAC 3499 at Pop 757 at Rhythmic 115 at Rhythmic AC 11 at Latin 1 at Tropical 36 at Urban Total Impressions: 29.983 million 0.017 at AC 1.732 at HotAC 22.370 at Pop 4.212 at Rhythmic 1.405 at Rhythmic AC 0.068 at Latin 0,008 at Tropical 0.171 at Urban NuStations Yesterday: WPOW Miami ® KPLZ Seattle (H) KVSP Oklahoma City (U) WBLK Buffalo (U) WHZT Greenville ® KPEK Albuquerque (H) WEUP Huntsville (U) Go Maddy, get those stations outside your core format! Hung Up - Day 12 Tue Oct 25 - 487 spins, 2.978 million impressions After 12 days of airplay, 3048 spins, 21.657 million impressions (+188 spins, +0.409 million impressions) 4 Minutes - Day 12 Fri Mar 28 - 762 spins, 4.621 million impressions (181 stations) After 12 days of airplay, 4682 spins, 29.983 million impressions (+220 spins, +0.6 million impressions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Can someone please translate and say if all these chart numbers are a good thing? HOWS IT DOING?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I would say its doing really good. Its hitting HUs peak after only a week and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Cool news, then why are someone people tripping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Robot Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 God. How come billboard does not see something wrong with that!!!?? Anyway, I think a peak of around 50 million is possible for 4 MIN......I hope. Um, I don't see anything wrong with it. Why is that a problem? And why is it Billboard's problem? All Billboard does is measure things. People complain about it but Billboard has no control over what radio stations play or what people buy. All the complaints boil down to people just not happy that their favorites don't chart as well as they want them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Robot Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Cool news, then why are someone people tripping? A lot of people on this board have insanely unrealistic expectations and are incredibly impatient. They also take the charts way too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Um, I don't see anything wrong with it. Why is that a problem? And why is it Billboard's problem? Becasue the aud imp count towards charting so urban artists have an upper hand right off the bat. Is this their way a affirmative action for the charts? Single sales have picked up again because of downloads. They should go by sales 100%. That just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thebigham Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Mediabase Quick Cut Info for 4 Minutes: http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/E...7&NumDays=7 Full Top 40 Mediabase Chart: http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/AllAccess/Cha...ear=y&dpt=n Full Rhythmic Mediabase Chart: http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/AllAccess/Cha...mp;showtopn=500 Full Urban Mediabase Chart: http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/AllAccess/Cha...mp;showtopn=500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laprol Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Becasue the aud imp count towards charting so urban artists have an upper hand right off the bat. Is this their way a affirmative action for the charts? Single sales have picked up again because of downloads. They should go by sales 100%. That just my opinion. I tend to agree. At least make it 80/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Caramelo Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I tend to agree. At least make it 80/20. Me too. It´s unfair. The chances are not the same for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Robot Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 The chances are 100% the same for everyone, and the chart is completely fair. If you want a sales-only chart, it exists. If you want an airplay-only chart, it exists. The Hot 100 is meant to combine both. It is designed for the record labels, in order to gauge the success of their songs. As it stands, on average, digital sales DO have greater weight. If a song is only played by one genre of radio, then it is usually because it does not appeal to people listening to other genres of radio and/or because the record label has opted not to promote it there. I have no idea why some of you would think it would be MORE fair to exclude huge segments of radio. Sales does not tell you the most popular song -- it tells you the most purchased song. Plenty of people like songs that they don't buy the single for, and there are plenty of cases where a small group of people love a song (high sales) while a vast, much larger group of people hate it (low airplay) -- the Hot 100 balances that out. Gripes about this system are tiresome and misinformed. Billboard is solely about measurement, and it is designed for the record labels, not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dont know if this was mentioned yet. ''4 Minutes'' debuted tonight at #5 on Los Angeles KIIS FM Jojo’s Top 9 @ 9! Really great news, but please keep requesting it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 oooh!! super! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 The chances are 100% the same for everyone, and the chart is completely fair. If you want a sales-only chart, it exists. If you want an airplay-only chart, it exists. The Hot 100 is meant to combine both. It is designed for the record labels, in order to gauge the success of their songs. As it stands, on average, digital sales DO have greater weight. If a song is only played by one genre of radio, then it is usually because it does not appeal to people listening to other genres of radio and/or because the record label has opted not to promote it there. I have no idea why some of you would think it would be MORE fair to exclude huge segments of radio. Sales does not tell you the most popular song -- it tells you the most purchased song. Plenty of people like songs that they don't buy the single for, and there are plenty of cases where a small group of people love a song (high sales) while a vast, much larger group of people hate it (low airplay) -- the Hot 100 balances that out. Gripes about this system are tiresome and misinformed. Billboard is solely about measurement, and it is designed for the record labels, not for you. Oh ma gudness. BAM. With you as the new mod, I might start actually coming in here for more than 5 seconds to see how she's doing! And I see this is doing considerably better than Hung Up now? Well I guess her last-ditch grasp at chart relevance is working! Good for her, I don't listen to radio except at work every now and then, so I still haven't heard it, but they made fun of it on the first day it debuted here in Orlando so I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je5u5 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 and there are plenty of cases where a small group of people love a song (high sales) while a vast, much larger group of people hate it (low airplay) Low airplay doesn't mean people hate the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Robot Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Low airplay doesn't mean people hate the song. That's not what I was saying. I'm saying that radio research that leads to a low favorable response will lead to low airplay. This is a big part of why Britney never did all that well on radio. She had a diehard following among a lot of kids (and plenty of gays) but ask just about any person over 25 who isn't gay and you'll probably find few people who care for her music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 She had a diehard following among a lot of kids (and plenty of gays) but ask just about any person over 25 who isn't gay and you'll probably find few people who care for her music. And she is not black or urban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellenger1981 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Sales does not tell you the most popular song -- it tells you the most purchased song. Plenty of people like songs that they don't buy the single for, and there are plenty of cases where a small group of people love a song (high sales) while a vast, much larger group of people hate it (low airplay) -- the Hot 100 balances that out. The same way that airplay does not tell you the most popular song either. Radio airplay ultimately depends on the DJs and programmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afrolito Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 And she is not black or urban. Janet is black, and that's not helping her on radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Janet is black, and that's not helping her on radio. Probably because even they know she is a lost cause right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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