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"4 Minutes" on the Billboard Charts

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Well, both "4 Minutes" & "Secret" peaked at #3, spent 11 weeks in the Top 10, were lead-off singles of "urban" flavoured" albums and were done by in-demand black producers.

The huge difference is that "Secret" peaked at #11 in sales and #3 in airplay while "4 Minutes" peaked at #11 in airplay and #1 in sales. Which one is the bigger and "more remembered" hit? :p

So give it to me no1 for 7 weeks like Take a bow :queenbitch:

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Keep in mind that with the advent of the BDS/SoundScan era, there was a lower rate of turnover in the top 10 for the biggest hits- pre that era, there'd be 100+ top 10 hits in a calendar year; after that, the number was cut back by 40% or more.

Too early to say which will be the "more remembered" hit between "Secret" and "4 Minutes"- 4M is the bigger sales hit, though they fared almost pretty evenly at top 40 mainstream ("Secret" No. 3, "4 Minutes" No. 5).

A couple format charts for this week:

* Adult Top 40: Holds at No. 20, no bullet

* Rhythmic Top 40: Drops Off

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Man, "Music" was HUGE.

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What song(s) kept Music to no2 for so many weeks? :thumbsdown::demonic:

Music was no1 in the top40 mainstream radio right? What about rhythmic peak position??

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What song(s) kept Music to no2 for so many weeks? :thumbsdown::demonic:

Aguilera's Come on Over Baby :confused:

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Aguilera's Come on Over Baby :confused:

I shouldn't have made that question :dramatic::confused:

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WBR is really getting on my nerves.

2x platinum is what is should be!

They are just stupid

is 4m close to 1.7million already?

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^Sigh.

How can they certify it 2xp when it has only sold 1.720 million digital singles??

The digital certification is based on singles sold.

You can't ship digital singles!!!

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Bitch, bitch, bitch.

Moan, moan, moan.

Tired, tired. tired.

bigham, relax a bit. Its Candy's thing. I find her rants entertaining. Look at it as "her thing". If she suddenly stopped doing it, I would miss it. Its part of her charm! :)

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No, it's tiring!! I hope I don't have to read her "flop" posts each week until the album falls of the charts.

Plus, she's completely wrong about the 2xp certification.

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bigham, relax a bit. Its Candy's thing. I find her rants entertaining. Look at it as "her thing". If she suddenly stopped doing it, I would miss it. Its part of her charm! :)

There's nothing charming about insanity. She needs to take a break, get a life, and stop obsessing over Madonnas' supposed flops. That would be the healthy thing in the long run.

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Guest edmondlee

it will be 2xp, but not now.

why WBR issued 1xp now? then a few weeks later they issue 2xp, waste the $$$, haha

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It will be 2xp, elee? Don't think so. COADF hasn't even been certified 2 platinum, and HC is very unlikely to approach that album's to-date sales.

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M&F, you're missing a week in there- this is 4M's 12th week on the Hot 100.

oh yeah i forgot about that week :)

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bigham, relax a bit. Its Candy's thing. I find her rants entertaining. Look at it as "her thing". If she suddenly stopped doing it, I would miss it. Its part of her charm! :)

Oh, Thanx babes.

Im NOT upset with TBH at all. He writes beautiful posts. Im sorry that I offend him, but thats NOT my intention.

And I was NOT complaining re: 4m- I was only saying round it up to 2M.

Im not sure what the process entails; Is it necessary for WBR to do 2 certs in a matter of a month or two- or could they just have waited.

I am NOT condemning HC or 4m when I say those things-please dont misconstrue-Im just very suspicious of WBR because of how slow they are in the process of certs.

WBR seems to take yrs to update her catalog-and I dont want to see HC reach 800k and still remain gold for another 10yrs.

Thats all.

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HG must be drunk... :chuckle:

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6/21 chart:

Full trajectories below. "4 Minutes" picks up a bullet on Hot Singles Sales and Dance Singles Sales as a result of the release of the 12" vinyl. Otherwise, it no longer carries a bullet on any chart.

Madonna - "Hard Candy" [Gold]

The Billboard 200 - 1*-3-8-9-11-14

Billboard Comprehensive Albums - 1*-3-8-9-11-N/A

Top Digital Albums -1-2-6-11-13-20

Top Internet Albums - 1-4-7-5-7-15

Tastemakers - 2*-2-9-12-off-off

Top Canadian Albums - 1*-1-2-2-2-5

European Top 100 Albums - 1-1-1-1-1-2-2

Madonna feat. Justin Timberlake and Timbaland - "4 Minutes" [Platinum]

The Billboard Hot 100 - 68*-3*-3*-7-6*-4*-6-7-7-8-10-10

Hot 100 Airplay - 51*-41*-30*-27*-16*-13*-11*-13*-12*-12*-12-13

Hot Singles Sales - 1*-2-1-4-4-5*

Hot Digital Tracks - 2*-1-2-1*-3-4-5-5-8-8-9

Hot Digital Songs - 2*-1*-2-1*-2-2-5-5-8-9-9

Pop 100 - 32*-3*-2*-3*-3*-3*-3-5-6-7-6-11

Pop 100 Airplay - 22*-15*-12*-11*-10*-9*-7*-6*-6*-6*-7-8

Hot Dance Club Play - 54-32*-12*-5*-1*-1*-2-5-8-12

Hot Dance Airplay - 5*-5-4*-4-4*-3*-2*-2-2*-1*-2-4

Hot Dance Singles Sales - 1*-2-1-1-2-2*

Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks - 39*-35*-35*-29*-26*-24*-22*-23*-21*-20*-20

Rhythmic Top 40 - 39*-31*-28*-28*-30*-31*-30-33-34-off

Latin Pop Airplay - 39*-off-32*-29*-27*-28-33

Hot Videoclip Tracks - 10-10-5-1-5-6-5-off

Canadian Hot 100 - 27*-1*-1*-1-1-1-1-2-1*-1-1-3

Hot Canadian Digital Singles - 1*-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-5

Japan Hot 100 - 6-16-47-63-off

Madonna - "Miles Away"

Japan Hot 100 - 36-7-11-12-18

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Once again, my weekly update of the YTD chart of Hot 100 singles (based on point system)

#1 = 100 pts, #2 = 99pts, #100 = 1 pt, etc...

Pos / Points / Weeks / Title (Peak) / Artist

1 / 2334 / 25 / Low (1) / Flo Rida Featuring T-Pain

2 / 2297 / 25 / Love Song (4) / Sara Bareilles

3 / 2260 / 25 / With You (2) / Chris Brown

4 / 2200 / 25 / Apologize (3) / Timbaland Featuring OneRepublic

5 / 2135 / 25 / Don't Stop The Music (3) / Rihanna

6 / 2075 / 24 / No One (2) / Alicia Keys

7 / 1936 / 25 / See You Again (10) / Miley Cyrus

8 / 1869 / 23 / No Air (3) / Jordin Sparks Duet With Chris Brown

9 / 1803 / 25 / Stop And Stare (12) / OneRepublic

10 / 1715 / 22 / Sorry (9) / Buckcherry

11 / 1690 / 22 / Bubbly (6) / Colbie Caillat

12 / 1679 / 24 / Our Song (16) / Taylor Swift

13 / 1663 / 22 / Paralyzer (6) / Finger Eleven

14 / 1642 / 19 / Sexy Can I (3) / Ray J & Yung Berg

15 / 1587 / 21 / Independent (9) / Webbie, Lil' Phat & Lil' Boosie

16 / 1553 / 20 / Teardrops On My Guitar (13) / Taylor Swift

17 / 1527 / 17 / Love In This Club (1) / Usher Featuring Young Jeezy

18 / 1503 / 19 / Tattoo (8) / Jordin Sparks

19 / 1498 / 18 / Take You There (7) / Sean Kingston

20 / 1477 / 17 / Bleeding Love (1) / Leona Lewis

21 / 1461 / 17 / Touch My Body (1) / Mariah Carey

22 / 1410 / 18 / Like You'll Never See Me Again (12) / Alicia Keys

23 / 1373 / 19 / Suffocate (18) / J. Holiday

24 / 1363 / 17 / Sensual Seduction (7) / Snoop Dogg

25 / 1306 / 19 / Superstar (10) / Lupe Fiasco Featuring Matthew Santos

26 / 1273 / 15 / Clumsy (5) / Fergie

27 / 1248 / 16 / Shadow Of The Day (15) / Linkin Park

28 / 1194 / 13 / Lollipop (1) / Lil Wayne Featuring Static Major

29 / 1164 / 20 / Feels Like Tonight (24) / Daughtry

30 / 1082 / 14 / Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill) (12) / Wyclef Jean Featuring Akon, Lil Wayne & Niia

31 / 1081 / 19 / I Remember (24) / Keyshia Cole

32 / 1076 / 17 / Pocketful Of Sunshine (8) / Natasha Bedingfield

33 / 1073 / 12 / 4 Minutes (3) / Madonna Featuring Justin Timberlake

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Guest tir69

BILLBOARD HOT DIGITAL SONGS - TOP 50

1 1 COLDPLAY VIVA LA VIDA 245504 -3 253076 1013136

2 2 PERRY*KATY I KISSED A GIRL 219239 9 201699 752621

8 3 METRO STATION SHAKE IT 119954 28 93684 643913

4 4 RIHANNA TAKE A BOW 111766 -5 117930 962696

5 5 BEDINGFIELD*NATASHA POCKETFUL OF SUNSHINE 109472 -3 113368 1346826

7 6 BROWN*CHRIS FOREVER 105328 3 102037 673811

3 7 LIL WAYNE LOLLIPOP 100238 -36 156257 2144369

6 8 LEWIS*LEONA BLEEDING LOVE 95626 -10 105706 2530528

11 9 MCCARTNEY*JESSE LEAVIN' 88329 26 70061 684718

9 10 MADONNA FEAT. JUSTIN TIMBERLAK 4 MINUTES 81064 -8 88499 1801823

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4M will cross the 2 million mark in a few weeks :wow:

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bks at Pulse:

BILLBOARD HOT 100 - TOP 50

2 1 COLDPLAY VIVA LA VIDA

4 2 KATY PERRY I KISSED A GIRL

1 3 LIL WAYNE LOLLIPOP

3 4 LEWIS*LEONA BLEEDING LOVE - SINGLE

5 5 RIHANNA TAKE A BOW

9 6 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD POCKETFUL OF SUNSHINE

7 7 JORDIN SPARKS DUET NO AIR

11 8 CHRIS BROWN FOREVER

6 9 USHER LOVE IN THIS CLUB

14 10 METRO STATION SHAKE IT

12 11 PLIES BUST IT BABY PT. 2

8 12 RAY J FEAT. YUNG BERG SEXY CAN I

16 13 JESSE MCCARTNEY LEAVIN'

13 14 DANITY KANE DAMAGED

10 15 MADONNA 4 MINUTES

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Besides Coldplay and Natasha, the top 10 is just DIRE!

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OMG!!! Coldplay has a #1 song!!!!??? Damn! Next time lets make sure Madonna does an itunes commercial that airs 24/7 on television. :lol:

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If WB had done that, 4m would have been guaranteed a #1 debut. That's how you bypass radioplay, and give them a big FU in the process.

I said it once, and i'll say it again, WB has done zilch to really promote HC, yet Madonna gets all the flack around here.

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if 4M was withheld from release a little longer, it may have had a shot at a No. 1 peak. But, 2 weeks at No. 3 and 11 weeks in the top 10 ain't too shabby at that.

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