US Chart Talk: 9/29/07

[Guest Beautiful Stranger]

...and Bob Marley and The Wailer's Legend is 10x Platinum despite only peaking at #132 on the BB Top 200.

(It was #132, correct?) It is proof that not only chart peaks are not the most important thing, but also are often misleading.

[Guest Eternal Flame]

...and Bob Marley and The Wailer's Legend is 10x Platinum despite only peaking at #132 on the BB Top 200.

(It was #132, correct?) It is proof that not only chart peaks are not the most important thing, but also are often misleading.

Wow. And sometimes albums that peak in the top ten never get certified while some albums that peak in the 100s recieve a certification.

[Guest nothingfails0603]

No reson to feel bad for Kenny- he's a solid seller, and it's about longevity/overall performance, not the chart peak.

American Life peaked at No. 1 and Ray of Light peked at No. 2- see.

lol, tell that to 50 Cent, who takes a #2 peak even worse than Mariah does, lol

[Alexz]

This was a great week for the industry. Even if Kanye and 50 Cent are crap.

[HolidayGuy]

I think Legend peaked higher than 132, but point is the same- for some titles, initial chart performance doesn't tell the story. Legend has spent sooooooo many weeks logged in the catalog top 50.

Same for Patsy Cline's Greatest Hits, which never even appeared on the BB 200.

[xtaticboy82]

wow at kanye's sales! how much would be his 1st week total sales worldwide?

[thebigham]

bks at Pulse:

BILLBOARD HOT DIGITAL SONGS - TOP 50

2 1 WEST*KANYE STRONGER 205177 31 156086 1049260

1 2 SOULJA BOY CRANK THAT (SOULJA BOY) 182561 7 170858 939224

10 3 50 CENT AYO TECHNOLOGY 115165 112 54209 369375

-- 4 WEST*KANYE GOOD LIFE 95702 999 0 95702

4 5 TIMBALAND WAY I ARE 91299 10 82645 1260117

3 6 MATCHBOX TWENTY HOW FAR WE'VE COME 90044 -4 94010 184082

8 7 CAILLAT*COLBIE BUBBLY 83839 35 62133 412362

5 8 NICKELBACK ROCKSTAR 70189 -9 77450 1183169

-- 9 KEYS*ALICIA NO ONE 64703 999 1 64704

29 10 MAROON 5 WAKE UP CALL 62945 101 31304 208202

11 11 RIHANNA SHUT UP AND DRIVE 57556 10 52423 676000

6 12 FERGIE BIG GIRLS DON'T CRY 56706 -20 70638 1956710

7 13 KINGSTON*SEAN ME LOVE 53698 -14 62509 425216

-- 14 50 CENT I GET MONEY 51648 999 4124 60530

17 15 RIHANNA UMBRELLA 48598 21 40080 1957006

25 16 TIMBALAND FEAT. ONEREPUBLIC APOLOGIZE 47925 47 32498 286776

12 17 HURRICANE CHRIS BAY BAY 46650 -9 51021 720535

13 18 PLAIN WHITE T'S HEY THERE DELILAH 43061 -9 47506 2139523

9 19 KINGSTON*SEAN BEAUTIFUL GIRLS 41682 -30 59944 1040181

23 20 TIMBERLAKE*JUSTIN LOVESTONED 41339 24 33438 362773

137 21 FEIST 1, 2, 3, 4 40879 500 6818 107638

15 22 AKON SORRY, BLAME IT ON ME 40572 -8 43909 531550

16 23 T-PAIN BARTENDER 40569 -5 42911 746912

18 24 PINK WHO KNEW 39659 0 39734 590309

19 25 BOYS LIKE GIRLS GREAT ESCAPE 37911 -3 39041 700033

-- 26 CHESNEY*KENNY DON'T BLINK 36713 999 9 36722

21 27 BABY BASH FEATURING T-PAIN CYCLONE 35564 3 34573 254887

28 28 J. HOLIDAY BED 32627 3 31829 213359

24 29 LIFEHOUSE FIRST TIME 32182 -2 32821 471091

22 30 WILL I AM I GOT IT FROM MY MAMA 31780 -5 33623 157854

66 31 WEST*KANYE CAN'T TELL ME NOTHING 31598 103 15541 172925

37 32 LINKIN PARK BLEED IT OUT 31255 38 22684 218755

27 33 LAVIGNE*AVRIL WHEN YOU'RE GONE 30238 -6 32033 417201

26 34 SHOP BOYZ PARTY LIKE A ROCKSTAR 28827 -11 32304 1583444

30 35 ALY & AJ POTENTIAL BREAKUP SONG 27178 -11 30692 498867

20 36 JONAS BROTHERS S.O.S. 26964 -27 36861 337185

35 37 FALL OUT BOY THNKS FR TH MMRS 26861 9 24587 1049318

33 38 GYM CLASS HEROES CLOTHES OFF!! 26211 6 24791 213701

34 39 FINGER ELEVEN PARALYZER 25255 2 24657 351382

40 40 DAUGHTRY OVER YOU 24343 11 21877 227583

38 41 COLE*KEYSHIA LET IT GO 23758 7 22298 220467

31 42 YAMIN*ELLIOTT WAIT FOR YOU 23066 -9 25431 663388

32 43 PARAMORE MISERY BUSINESS 22675 -9 24968 326656

54 44 TIMBALAND;JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE;NE GIVE IT TO ME 22621 24 18228 1267567

52 45 FOO FIGHTERS PRETENDER 21775 17 18550 111123

42 46 LINKIN PARK WHAT I'VE DONE 21698 2 21190 1064184

14 47 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE SO SMALL 21112 -54 45852 138612

36 48 PLIES FEATURING T PAIN SHAWTY 20878 -10 23110 332851

41 49 MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE TEENAGERS 20072 -6 21445 355247

48 50 T.I. FEAT WYCLEF YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS 19982 0 20058 192842

A FEW BONUSES:

105 55 FURTADO*NELLY DO IT 18434 103 9084 81054

108 60 RIHANNA HATE THAT I LOVE YOU 16954 95 8680 68364

-- 69 PRESLEY*ELVIS/LISA MARIE PRESL IN THE GHETTO 15056 484 2576 52293

148 73 SCHERZINGER*NICOLE WHATEVER U LIKE 14605 128 6407 51713

-- 75 BACKSTREET BOYS INCONSOLABLE 14494 213 4633 27982

125 91 PETER BJORN & JOHN YOUNG FOLKS 11764 62 7277 191671

128 121 RIHANNA DON'T STOP THE MUSIC 8093 14 7115 72485

-- 123 STEFANI*GWEN NOW THAT YOU GOT IT 7931 999 641 24843

146 138 SHINY TOY GUNS LE DISKO 7359 13 6505 154181

-- 140 CAILLAT*COLBIE REALIZE 7239 39 5219 40489

-- 166 DAFT PUNK HARDER, BETTER, FASTER, STRONG 6159 38 4464 94129

[thebigham]

Billboard.com:

Kanye Crushes 50 Cent In Huge Album Sales Week

September 18, 2007

by Geoff Mayfield, L.A.

Kanye West's "Graduation" (Def Jam) easily leads the star-studded class of Sept. 11 releases, posting The Billboard 200's largest sales total in more than two years. Nielsen SoundScan will show West's album moved 957,000 during its first six days when the tracking service refreshes its charts tomorrow morning (Sept. 19).

Also pumping album volume are 50 Cent's "Curtis" (G-Unit/Interscope), which will lock down the No. 2 slot with 691,000 sold. Kenny Chesney's "Just Who I Am: Poets & Pirates" (BNA/Sony BMG Nashville) will bow at No. 3 with 387,000 copies.

The total for West's "Graduation" is the largest by any album since 50 Cent's "The Massacre" opened with 1.1 million copies in March 2005. West's own August 2005 album, "Late Registration," was the last album to surpass 800,000 copies when it began with 860,000.

While West beats 50 Cent in the celebrated clash between rappers, the real winners are music merchants. With the "High School Musical 2" soundtrack at No. 4 selling 133,000 copies, the top four titles alone account for 2.2 million units, more than all titles combined on last week's entire Billboard 200.

West's new album ranks 15th among all sales weeks since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking in 1991. The double punch provided by "Graduation" and "Curtis" also marks just the second time in that era that two albums have bowed in the same week with totals surpassing 600,000 copies.

The last such occasion was in September 1991, when Guns N' Roses' "Use Your Illusion II" led The Billboard 200 with 770,000 copies in the same week that the band's companion album "Use Your Illusion I" bowed at No. 2 with 685,000, a pair of numbers now beaten by West and 50's totals.

"Graduation" also rings up the largest week yet by a digital album download, starting with 133,000, beating the prior record of 102,000, set earlier this year by Maroon 5's "It Won't Be Soon Before Long."

50 Cent and Chesney will occupy the same ranks on Top Digital Albums as they do on The Billboard 200, the former with 58,000 downloads and Chesney's with 36,000. Nielsen SoundScan has been tracking digital sales since midway through 2003.

Chesney's overall total of 387,000 copies marks the largest sales week for a country album since the May 2006 arrival of Dixie Chicks' "Taking the Long Way," which opened at 526,000 copies.

[thebigham]

from 2m at Pulse Music:

Top one week sales in SoundScan history

1 4/8/2000 No Strings Attached 'N Sync 2,415,859

2 8/11/2001 Celebrity 'N Sync 1,879,955

3 6/10/2000 The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem 1,760,049

4 12/9/2000 Black & Blue Backstreet Boys 1,591,191

5 6/15/2002 The Eminem Show Eminem 1,320,000

6 6/3/2000 Oops...I Did It Again Britney Spears 1,319,193

7 1/6/2001 1 The Beatles 1,258,667

8 3/19/2005 The Massacre 50 Cent 1,140,638

9 6/5/1999 Millennium Backstreet Boys 1,133,505

10 4/10/2004 Confessions Usher 1,096,213

11 12/5/1998 Double Live Garth Brooks 1,085,373

12 1/2/1993 The Bodyguard Soundtrack 1,061,000

13 11/4/2000 Chocolate Starfish Limp Bizkit 1,054,511

14 2/28/2004 Feels Like Home Norah Jones 1,022,149

15 9/29/07 Graduation Kanye West 956,936

16 11/6/1993 Vs. Pearl Jam 950,377

17 1/7/1995 The Hits Garth Brooks 907,000

[thebigham]

2m at Pulse:

Top sales weeks 2007

1 09/29/07 GRADUATION KANYE WEST 956,936

2 09/29/07 CURTIS 50 CENT ~691,000

3 06/02/07 MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT LINKIN PARK 622,827

4 09/01/07 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 2 SOUNDTRACK 615,361

5 07/21/07 T.I. Vs. T.I.P. T.I. 467,737

6 06/09/07 IT WON'T BE SOON BEFORE LONG MAROON 5 429,484

7 02/17/07 NOT TOO LATE NORAH JONES 405,031

8 09/29/07 JUST WHO I AM: POETS & PIRATES KENNEY CHESNEY ~387,000

9 06/16/07 DOUBLE UP R. KELLY 385,930

10 09/08/07 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 2 SOUNDTRACK 367,055

[thebigham]

Billboard Chart Alert:

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_dis...089263ddddb0ef4

[thebigham]

Billboard.com:

Album Sales Down 9% Despite Huge Kanye, 50 Tallies

September 19, 2007

by Katie Hasty, N.Y.

It's an exciting week at the top of The Billboard 200 chart, as three of the year's most anticipated releases enter in the top three slots. But despite the hubbub over the Kanye West/50 Cent/Kenny Chesney showdown, sales are still down 9% compared to the same week last year at 9.16 million.

As reported last night, West's "Graduation" (Def Jam) debuts at No. 1 with a whopping 957,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan, trouncing the 691,000 unit entry of 50 Cent's "Curtis" (G-Unit/Interscope) at No. 2. "Graduation" is the biggest selling album so far this year and is the 15th biggest sales frame since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking data in 1991.

The last album to move at least that many was, ironically, "The Massacre" by 50 Cent in 2005, with 1.1 million. Chesney's "Just Who I Am: Poets & Pirates" (BNA/Sony BMG Nashville) also kicks off with a big number, moving 387,000 to debut No. 3. It's the largest sales week for a country album since the May 2006 arrival of Dixie Chicks' "Taking the Long Way," which opened with 526,000 copies.

With such strong debuts, the soundtrack to Disney's "High School Musical 2" finally falls to No. 4 after four weeks at No. 1, moving 133,000 copies after a 19% sales slide. Another Disney soundtrack, Miley Cyrus' double-disc set "Hannah Montana 2 (Soundtrack)/Meet Miley Cyrus," slips 3-5 with 42,000 (-10%). Fergie's "The Dutchess" (Interscope) falls 2-6 with 41,000 (-17%), while Nickelback's Roadrunner effort "All the Right Reasons" climbs 8-7 with 35,000 (-4%).

With help from the popular single "Bubbly," Colbie Caillat's Universal Republic debut "Coco" rebounds 14-8 with a 25% sales surge at to 32,000. The "NOW 25" hits compilation slips 7-9 with 32,000 (-16%), while Justin Timberlake's "FutureSex/LoveSounds" (Jive) re-enters the top tier 12-10 with a 14% sales increase to 31,000; it was precisely this week one year ago that the effort bowed at No. 1.

Another big debut this week is the "Grey's Anatomy 3" soundtrack (Hollywood) at No. 16 with 27,000. Trisha Yearwood's "Greatest Hits" (MCA Nashville) lands at No. 22 with 22,000 and B5's "Don't Talk, Just Listen" (Bad Boy) starts at No. 27 with 19,000.

[fak]

daft punk at 166. i wonder what sort of an affect the kanye west song will have on their back catalogue?

[Guest Beautiful Stranger]

Most people in the US that know Kanye and "Stronger" have no idea Daft Punk has anything to do with it. And most people in the US don't even who they are in general.

[thebigham]

bks at Pulse:

BILLBOARD HOT 100 - TOP 50

2 1 WEST*KANYE STRONGER

1 2 SOULJA BOY TELL 'EM CRANK THAT

4 3 TIMBALAND FEATURING THE WAY I ARE

3 4 FERGIE BIG GIRLS DON'T CRY

19 5 50 CENT AYO TECHNOLOGY

11 6 J. HOLIDAY BED - SINGLE

10 7 KEYSHIA COLE LET IT GO

6 8 NICKELBACK ROCKSTAR

14 9 PINK WHO KNEW

9 10 PLIES SHAWTY

5 11 T-PAIN BARTENDER

12 12 MATCHBOX TWENTY HOW FAR WE'VE COME

7 13 PLAIN WHITE T'S HEY THERE DELILAH

14 KANYE WEST FEATURIN GOOD LIFE

71 15 ALICIA KEYS NO ONE

21 16 COLBIE CAILLAT BUBBLY

17 17 RIHANNA UMBRELLA

20 18 TIMBERLAKE*JUSTIN LOVESTONED/I THINK SHE KNOWS R

13 19 FABOLOUS MAKE ME BETTER

45 20 50 CENT I GET MONEY

8 21 SEAN KINGSTON BEAUTIFUL GIRLS

18 22 ELLIOTT YAMIN WAIT FOR YOU

40 23 MAROON 5 WAKE UP CALL

16 24 SEAN KINGSTON ME LOVE

15 25 HURRICANE CHRIS BAY BAY RATCHET REMIX

23 26 BOYS LIKE GIRLS THE GREAT ESCAPE

28 27 BABY BASH CYCLONE

24 28 RIHANNA SHUT UP AND DRIVE

26 29 AVRIL LAVIGNE WHEN YOU'RE GONE

79 30 KENNY CHESNEY DON'T BLINK

22 31 AKON SORRY, BLAME IT ON ME

29 32 LIFEHOUSE FIRST TIME

52 33 TIMBALAND FEATURING APOLOGIZE

30 34 MAROON 5 MAKES ME WONDER

27 35 T-PAIN BUY U A DRANK (SHAWTY SNAPPIN)

31 36 DAUGHTRY HOME

38 37 DAUGHTRY OVER YOU

34 38 T.I. YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS

32 39 CARRIE UNDERWOOD BEFORE HE CHEATS

37 40 FALL OUT BOY THNKS FR TH MMRS

57 41 WEST*KANYE CAN'T TELL ME NOTHING

44 42 BRAD PAISLEY ONLINE

33 43 WILL.I.AM I GOT IT FROM MY...

25 44 CARRIE UNDERWOOD SO SMALL

43 45 FINGER ELEVEN PARALYZER

36 46 SHOP BOYZ PARTY LIKE A ROC

39 47 STEFANI*GWEN SWEET ESCAPE

46 48 TIM MCGRAW IF YOU'RE READING THIS

41 49 NE-YO DO YOU

55 50 KENNY CHESNEY NEVER WANTED NOTHING MORE

INTERESTING MOVES & DEBUTS

78 54 RIHANNA FEATURING N HATE THAT I LOVE YOU

58 56 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE UNTIL THE END OF TIME

-- 61 FEIST 1234 - SINGLE

74 69 GARTH BROOKS MORE THAN A MEMORY

85 75 BRITNEY SPEARS GIMME MORE

-- 86 BACKSTREET BOYS INCONSOLABLE

-- 88 FURTADO*NELLY DO IT

-- 93 DJ KHALED FEATURING I'M SO HOOD

-- 94 JEAN*WYCLEF SWEETEST GIRL (DOLLAR BILL)

-- 95 CASSIDY MY DRINK N' MY 2 STEP

-- 96 TURNER*JOSH FIRECRACKER - SINGLE

-- 99 JUANES ME ENAMORA

-- 100 CHRIS BROWN FEATURI KISS KISS

[Guest nothingfails0603]

I hope "Do It" does better than All Good Things does. I don't understand why radio was so resisting to AGT when it came straight off the heels of a #1 smash

[HolidayGuy]

The Mediabase audience for "Do It" stands at just 4.5m (down from last week), so I don't think it's going to all that much further.

And, yay for "Who Knew"- still not tired of it.

Not sure how "Do It Well" is Bubbling Under with no sales points (unless I missed somethin')- its Mediabase tally is 7.4m or so- maybe Latin stations not included in that tally?

[Guest nothingfails0603]

why is radio so resistant to Do It and All Good Things, when it ate Say It Right up? Makes you wonder if there's Payola involved because it seems weird how Nelly had two #1 blockbuster singles, yet the other singles failed miserably at radio (Maneater at least had high digital sales)

[fak]

I got my answer. There is an email about madonna, britney and leaks below this too. DP were selling less about 1000 digital downloads pre Stronger, thats not bad.

DAFT PUNK GETS STRONGER

Hello Keith,

My question has to do with Kanye West's song "Stronger." Has the single's sample of Daft Punk's "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" helped sales of the album "Discovery" (where "Harder" can be found)?

Thanks,

Andres Escobar

Hi Andres,

In the past month, "Discovery" has been selling about twice as much as it was back in June, previous to the release of "Stronger." Don't get too excited, as "Discovery" is still selling only about 1,000 copies a week. However, if we look at the digital download sales of the song "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger," it's a much rosier picture. For the week ending Sept. 9, the song sold over 4,000. Compare that to the week ending June 17, before West's song was released, when "Harder" only sold about 1,000 downloads.

Daft Punk is preparing to release "Alive 2007" on Nov. 20 (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003631538). The set captures the electronic act's June 14, 2007 show in Paris.

Most people in the US that know Kanye and "Stronger" have no idea Daft Punk has anything to do with it. And most people in the US don't even who they are in general.

[thebigham]

From 2m at Pulse Music:

Most Top 10's 2000's:

LUDACRIS 13

NELLY 12

JAY-Z 11

USHER 10

50 CENT 10

ASHANTI 10

AKON 10

BEYONCE 9

JA RULE 8

DESTINY'S CHILD 8

EMINEM 8

PINK 8

The overall:

ELVIS PRESLEY 36

MADONNA 36

BEATLES 34

STEVIE WONDER 28

MICHAEL JACKSON 28

ELTON JOHN 27

JANET JACKSON 27

MARIAH CAREY 25

ROLLING STONES 23

WHITNEY HOUSTON 23

[Ai Papi Si.]

Marrah Carrah, Tranet, and Nippy stick out like sore thumbs in that list.

[Riverwide]

Most of the public would be hard-pressed to name any more than 1 or 2 of Janet and Mariah's Top 10 hits.

[HolidayGuy]

12, just think of the #1s list, with Mimi at No. 3, snugged between Elvis and Michael Jackson, and ahead of Madonna, The Supremes, etc. And to think- she's gonna have more than Elvis and possibly even The Beatles one day. (not hating on Mimi, but come on, ya know).

[thebigham]

Most of the public would be hard-pressed to name any more than 1 or 2 of Janet and Mariah's Top 10 hits.

What? Janet Jackson's older music still gets a lot of radio airplay here in the USA.

I still hear Nasty, What have You Done For Me Lately, When I Think Of You, Escapade, Love Will Never Do Without You, That's The way Love Goes, Again, Together Again and All For You on the radio.

[HolidayGuy]

Compared to the other "divas," Janet's recurrent airplay doesn't compare, though. I mean, in most weeks, "Luv me Luv Me" is her most-played recurrent, followed by "That's the Way Love Goes." She doesn't even have a track that gets spun 300+ times/week in the USA (TTWLG usually is less than 200).

I'd imagine it's even worse in the UK and Europe.

[Guest northernlad]

What's the biggest selling digital single so far? I'm curious as to when we'll see that 3 million tally.

[Guest nothingfails0603]

In the past month, "Discovery" has been selling about twice as much as it was back in June, previous to the release of "Stronger." Don't get too excited, as "Discovery" is still selling only about 1,000 copies a week.

that isn't bad at all for a six year old album that wasn't exactly a smash upon initial release. Compare it with Music and All For You, which were current albums at the same time Discovery was, neither of them have seen a 200 week in a long time, and those albums initially did 3 million, Daft's album did a couple hundred thousand copies at best.

[fak]

i am not a huge radio listener but the last time i heard janet on the radio was "all for you". i dont think i have ever heard any of her songs ever get recurrent airplay. mariah on the other hand may have "dreamlover", "AIWFCIY" and even thats it. whitney might get a few spins from her first 2 albums or the bodyguard.

m songs i hear quite a bit are holiday, like a virgin, into the groove, papa dont preach, open your heart, la isla bonita, like a prayer - occasionally, express yourself, vogue (1 of the more well played), frozen, ray of light, beautiful stranger, music,

I'd imagine it's even worse in the UK and Europe.

[Guest Eternal Flame]

i am not a huge radio listener but the last time i heard janet on the radio was "all for you". i dont think i have ever heard any of her songs ever get recurrent airplay. mariah on the other hand may have "dreamlover", "AIWFCIY" and even thats it. whitney might get a few spins from her first 2 albums or the bodyguard.

m songs i hear quite a bit are holiday, like a virgin, into the groove, papa dont preach, open your heart, la isla bonita, like a prayer - occasionally, express yourself, vogue (1 of the more well played), frozen, ray of light, beautiful stranger, music,

I always hear Take A Bow and I'll Remember on the radio along with Don't Tell Me, Into the Groove.

As for Whitney, I hear songs like Greatest Love of All on the radio all the time.

[Guest Beautiful Stranger]

Top 10 Singles

ELVIS PRESLEY 36

MADONNA 36

BEATLES 34

STEVIE WONDER 28

MICHAEL JACKSON 28

ELTON JOHN 27

JANET JACKSON 27

MARIAH CAREY 25

ROLLING STONES 23

WHITNEY HOUSTON 23

Mariah has 25 after 17 years. Madonna had 32 after 17 years.