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  1. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4021776/Blast-Egypts-main-Coptic-Christian-cathedral-kills-5.html omg, i hope @spazz wasnt near there or anyone he knows.
  2. Egypt Arrests Group Of Men For Participation In Same-Sex Wedding by Zack Ford Posted on September 9, 2014 at 9:18 am Egypt has reportedly arrested as many as nine men who were identified as participating in a same-sex wedding. A video of the ceremony was uploaded back in April, but after it went viral recently, police identified nine of the 16 participants, though some reports suggest there were only seven arrests. Though Egyptian law does not explicitly prohibit homosexuality, the men were held in custody under charges of “incitement to debauchery” and “publishing indecent images.” Gay Egyptians have also been previously prosecuted under charges such as “scorning religion” and “sexual practices contrary to Islam.” The prosecution is describing the celebration depicted in the video as “a devilish shameless party.” Prosecutors also apparently ordered “medical tests,” a practice supposedly able to identify “habitual homosexuals.” In other countries, such tests consist of anal probes. A forensic spokesman said Monday that based on the test results, the men are “not homosexuals.” This, however, does not end their prosecution. A State Department spokesperson told ThinkProgress that U.S. officials are still seeking more information about the arrests, but that the U.S. remains “firmly committed to supporting the ability of all people, including lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender individuals, to lead productive and dignified lives, free from fear, discrimination and violence.” “Protecting universal human rights is at the core of U.S. foreign policy,” the spokesperson said, “and we will continue to stress to the Egyptian government the importance of human rights for all, including those of LGBT individuals.” The State Department is urging the Egyptian government “to ensure that all of those arrested or detained are afforded due process and fair and transparent trials, and that the law is applied equitably and free of political bias,” including “clearly and publically presenting evidence, ensuring that charges are made within a reasonable timeframe, and ensuring defendants have access to legal representation.” Watch the video of the wedding that supposedly led to the arrests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcCS_sn97IA It’s unclear if the couple in the video is among the seven men arrested this week.
  3. Overlooked in the midst of all the celebrations in Egypt concerning the presidential election of Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, his predecessor, President Adly Mansour – who very much shares in Sisi’s worldview and politics – made a strange comment about the place of the nation’s Christian minority, the Copts. Sisi declared Mansour acting president of Egypt on July 4, 2013 – right after former President Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood party were overthrown in the June 30 Revolution, which was supported by the Coptic Church. In a televised speech delivered a few days ago, Mansour again addressed the Copts in a very inclusive way, one very much welcomed and appreciated by Egypt’s Christians. Among other things, he indicated that they were equal citizens, “brothers” to the Muslims; that they have been an integral part of Egypt’s history; that both Copts and Muslims are victims of and enemies to “terrorism” (a reference to the Brotherhood and other Islamist organizations). Then he said: I speak to you [Copts] today through the true spirit of Islam – the spirit whose values appeared in the Pact of Omar, wherein the righteous Caliph, Omar bin al-Khattab, made a covenant with the Christians of Jerusalem, after Medina opened [conquered] it in the year 638; the Pact which preserved for the Christians their churches, monasteries, and crosses, and their religion and possessions. Egypt again renews the spirit of this pact and its principles with you; Egypt, the Muslim state, which takes from the values and principles of the tolerant and true Islamic Sharia for its legislation. To those familiar with the actual text of the Pact of Omar – also known as the shurut, or “the conditions,” of Omar – the above speech is an absurd contradiction. After all, whereas Koran 9:29 provides divine sanction to fight the “People of the Book” (namely, Christians and Jews) “until they pay the jizya [monetary tribute] with willing submission and feel themselves subdued,” theConditions of Omar lay out in detail how Christians are to feel themselves subdued. Below are excerpts from the Conditions (see Crucified Again for my complete translation and historical discussion of the text). The conquered Christians appear to be speaking and agree: Not to build a church in our city – nor a monastery, convent, or monk’s cell in the surrounding areas – and not to repair those that fall in ruins or are in Muslim quarters; Not to clang our cymbals except lightly and from the innermost recesses of our churches; Not to display a cross on them [churches], nor raise our voices during prayer or readings in our churches anywhere near Muslims; Not to produce a cross or [Christian] book in the markets of the Muslims; Not to congregate in the open for Easter or Palm Sunday, nor lift our voices [in lamentation] for our dead nor show our firelights with them near the market places of the Muslims; Not to display any signs of polytheism, nor make our religion appealing, nor call or proselytize anyone to it; Not to prevent any of our relatives who wish to enter into Islam; Not to possess or bear any arms whatsoever, nor gird ourselves with swords; To honor the Muslims, show them the way, and rise up from our seats if they wish to sit down; We guarantee all this to you upon ourselves, our descendants, our spouses, and our neighbors, and if we change or contradict these conditions imposed upon ourselves in order to receive safety, we forfeit our dhimma[protection], and we become liable to the same treatment you inflict upon the people who resist and cause sedition. To “become liable to the same treatment you inflict upon the people who resist and cause sedition” simply meant that if any stipulation of the Conditions was broken, the Christians would resume their natural status as non-submitting infidels who “resist and cause sedition” against Islam – becoming, once again, free game for killing or enslavement. That other Muslims read the Conditions to mean what they plainly say – as opposed to Mansour’s portrayal of them as indicative of Islamic tolerance – consider how just a few months ago, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) tried to enforce the Conditions to a tee, after issuing a directive calling on “Christians in the city to pay tax of around half an ounce (14g) of pure gold in exchange for their safety.” It [iSIS’s statement] says Christians must not make renovations to churches, display crosses or other religious symbols outside churches, ring church bells or pray in public. Christians must not carry arms, and must follow other rules imposed by ISIS on their daily lives. The statement said the group had met Christian representatives and offered them three choices – they could convert to Islam, accept ISIS’ conditions [based on Conditions of Omar], or reject their control and risk being killed. “If they reject, they are subject to being legitimate targets, and nothing will remain between them and ISIS other than the sword,” the statement said. To be sure, ISIS’s interpretation of the Conditions of Omar are more orthodox than Mansour’s – certainly more in accordance with Islamic history and doctrine. Consider, for instance, the words of Saudi Sheikh Marzouk Salem al-Ghamdi – an Islamic cleric, not a politician like Mansour – once spoken during a Friday mosque sermon: If the infidels live among the Muslims, in accordance with the conditions set out by the Prophet – there is nothing wrong with it provided they pay Jizya to the Islamic treasury. Other conditions [reference to Conditions of Omar] are … that they do not renovate a church or a monastery, do not rebuild ones that were destroyed, that they feed for three days any Muslim who passes by their homes … that they rise when a Muslim wishes to sit, that they do not imitate Muslims in dress and speech, nor ride horses, nor own swords, nor arm themselves with any kind of weapon; that they do not sell wine, do not show the cross, do not ring church bells, do not raise their voices during prayer, that they shave their hair in front so as to make them easily identifiable, do not incite anyone against the Muslims, and do not strike a Muslim…. If they violate these conditions, they have no protection. What, then, do we make of Mansour’s reference to these medieval Conditions – in a speech meant to reassure Egypt’s Christians of their equality as citizens of a modern nation? What do we make of the fact that Mansour’s views on the Copts – often seen as inclusive and moderate – are shared by Sisi, Egypt’s new president, who is believed to be more of a pious Muslim than his predecessor? Was Mansour employing a bit of Islamic tawriya, mentioning seemingly tolerant aspects of the Conditions – that Christians are allowed to “preserve” their churches, monasteries, and crosses – while ignoring the “conditions” Christians must obey in exchange for such “tolerance” – namely, that they not build or repair any churches or monasteries above the ones in existence and keep their crosses out of sight – otherwise they lose all “protection”? Through such double-talk, was Mansour trying to placate, on the one hand, the Copts, many of whom do not know much about the Conditions, and, on the other, hard-line Salafis who do – with words and references that convey different notions to different mentalities? Indeed, from a Salafi point of view, Mansour’s declaration to the Copts that “Egypt again renews the spirit of this pact [Conditions] and its principles with you; Egypt, the Muslim state” is tantamount to telling the Copts to remember their place in a medieval Muslim society – to forget about building new, or repairing old, churches, or displaying crosses, among the rest of Omar’s anti-Christian conditions. Or could Mansour himself, a judge and former head of Egypt’s Supreme Constitutional Court, be ignorant of or incredulous to the truth concerning theConditions? In fact, a few days before Mansour’s speech, I wrote the following words, which may be applicable to him: This is the fundamental problem facing all moderate Muslims: despite what they like to believe and due to a variety of historical and epistemological factors, they are heavily influenced by Western thinking … so whenever they come up against Islamic teachings they cannot fathom [such as the discriminatory Conditions], they collectively behave as if such teachings don’t really mean what they mean. Yet the Salafis know exactly what they mean. At any rate, most Copts – despite Mansour’s disturbing references to a medieval text that historically justified Christian subjugation – believe that Egypt’s government, first under Mansour and now under Sisi, is preferable to Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood. And most remain optimistic about Sisi. Time will tell if such optimism is warranted, or if Egypt’s Christians will again be fated to watch their nation take one step forward, only to take another one right back – the inevitable outcome of a worldview that always tries to articulate itself through an Islamic paradigm.
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