billiejean
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13 hours ago, spazz said:
Last night
Aww.
Who are your top 10 first ladies?
Look who's in the profile picture of the wiki page
Martha Washington eat ya heart out!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_First_Ladies_of_the_United_States
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She didn't die, she's Katy Perry.
Omg this case is so horrible :( God bless her.
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12 minutes ago, Pud Whacker said:
No. Strong as in taking attacks on every post. I'm not a martyr or anything I don't care I can handle myself . Xo
I'm not sure what's been going on (the usual love fest it seems
) but I appreciate you Pud Whacker! 
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Breaking News I just heard on Majid Nawazz's radio show says that Greencard holders will be exempt.
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President Trump's ban on refugees and immigrants from certain countries is shameful and cruel.
The USA has a proud history of welcoming and resettling refugees. The President can't just turn his back on this global crisis - all countries need to play their part.
While every country has the right to set its own immigration policies, this new policy flies in the face of the values of freedom and tolerance that the USA was built upon.
I'm pleased that the Prime Minister has now said she and the government do not agree with President Trump's policy, which will affect many British citizens who have dual nationality, including Londoners born in countries affected by the ban.
I will work with the government on behalf of Londoners affected.
As a nation that, like the USA, values tolerance, diversity and freedom, we cannot just shrug our shoulders and say: 'It's not our problem'.
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A US judge has issued a temporary halt to the deportation of visa holders or refugees stranded at airports following President Trump's executive order.
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a case in response to the order issued on Friday.
The ACLU estimates that between 100 and 200 people are being detained at airports or in transit.
Thousands of people have been protesting at US airports over Mr Trump's clampdown on immigration.
His executive order halted the entire US refugee programme and also instituted a 90-day travel ban for nationals from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.
- Trump border policy: Key points
- What is an executive order?
- Trump's first week: Well, that was intense
Those who were already mid-flight were detained on arrival - even if they held valid US visas or other immigration permits.
On Saturday, Mr Trump told reporters: "It's working out very nicely. You see it at the airports, you see it all over."
Other executive orders issued by Mr Trump on Saturday were:
- A ban on administration officials ever lobbying on behalf of a foreign government
- An order to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to come up with a plan within 30 days to defeat so-called Islamic State
- Restructuring the National Security Council with a key role for senior strategist Steve Bannon
'Irreparable injury'
The ruling, from US District Judge Ann Donnelly in New York, prevented the removal from the US of people with approved refugee applications, valid visas, and "other individuals... legally authorised to enter the United States".
The emergency ruling also said there was a risk of "substantial and irreparable injury" to those affected.
Her ruling is not on the constitutionality of Mr Trump's executive order. What will happen to those still held at airports remains unclear.
"The feeling of injustice is so big, and this ban is so demeaning! Shame!" - Syrian scientist working on skin cancer research and living in Germany who now finds she cannot travel to Philadelphia in February to visit colleagues.
"Dreams shattered" - cardiology fellow from Jordan whose Syrian wife's family cannot come to visit in the US.
"We may try our chances with other countries" - Iranian professional in Washington DC, whose wife is now stuck in Iran.
US entry ban victims vent fury
Early on Sunday, the Department of Homeland Security said it would comply with judicial rulings but would continue to enforce Mr Trump's order.
The case was brought early on Saturday on behalf of two Iraqi men detained at JFK Airport in New York.
One worked for the US military in Iraq. The other is married to a former US military contract employee.
Both have now been released. Another court hearing is set for February.
Lee Gelernt, deputy legal director of the Immigrants Rights Project, who argued the case in court said that some people had been threatened with being "put back on a plane" later on Saturday.
Mr Gelernt also said the judge had ordered the government to provide a list of names of those detained under the order.
Judges elsewhere in the US have also ruled on the issue:
- In Boston, a judge decided two Iranian nationals, professors at the University of Massachusetts, should be released from detention at Logan International Airport
- An order issued in Virginia banned, for seven days, the deportation of green card holders held at Dulles Airport and ordered the authorities to allow access to lawyers
- A Seattle judge issued an emergency stay of removal from the US for two people
In addition to those detained on arrival in the US, some air passengers were prevented from boarding US-bound flights after the order was signed.
On Saturday five Iraqi passengers and a Yemeni national were prevented from boarding a flight at Cairo airport bound for New York.
Dutch airline KLM said it had turned away seven people who were booked on US-bound flights because they would no longer have been accepted
The restriction applies to dual nationals - so, for example, a British citizen who is also a citizen of Iran would not be able to enter the US.
BBC
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If what we believe about Saudi is the case, it says alot that they get away with so much of it and we have to ask why? No one touches their issues, the womens rights, the lack of care for neighbours in distress... the apparent 9/11 involvement. And no, when I say get away I don't mean a battle should happen, i hate war & some people perhaps enjoy living in that religious state, they don't want American way of life, Bill Maher said something along those lines, how America presumes everyone wants to live their way, well many don't lol. (I'm certain many women don't like living under that regime however). But America who prides itself on being the land of the free..., it's interesting!
And Obama and Bush do deserve to have their name mentioned, just because Trump is president now doesn't mean the previous presidents involvement in affairs over the past 20+ or so years sinks to nothing. These roads have lead us to where we are now. Iraq was a catastrophe of epic proportions and Libya was another catastrophe. This is why in politics I don't get into this fanaticism or unwavering support that some people do, they aren't popstars . I cried happy tears for Obama when he won, it was historic but I didn't fall into the hope propaganda, and with Trump winning I didn't want to get hysterical either, and well, I didn't see Hilary as the lesser of two evils as some did, they both had the possibility of being catostraphic, Hilary however had actions under her belt, so I can't get with the notion that 'If we voted Hilary it would all be ok' much either at all.
America has also done some irreversible destruction in Yemen, some may say the death toll is just a casualty of war, but tell that to the innocent young kids and preteens who have been killed. It possibly proves the drone strikes aren't as accurate as were lead to believe.
I have really no idea what is going to happen, I'm not as smart as some of you in here, but I do know I do not support this idea of America shutting down to refugees from certain locations (all be it temporarily) at all... this is going to isolate so many people. We might as well pray that it all works out and Donald Trump now is the bad guy but soon it will all make sense...
until then make voices heard and also reach out to our friends across the world and let them know they are cared about, that's important.
Just now, MeakMaker said:My only fear at this stage is a terror attack on US soil. Praying it won't happen. If it happens of course ISIS will claim it as its own when in all possibility it might as well be an inside job. But regardless that would give Trump the satisfaction to say he's been acting on behalf of the American people. Honestly America is becoming the worst country in the world. Land Of The Free?
Do you believe in inside jobs then? Are you into conspiracy theories?
*thinks about making another thread*
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34 minutes ago, impr3ssive_instant said:
Remember when Trump supporters were upset that the Clinton Foundation accepted money from Saudi Arabia? Meanwhile Trump registered 8 businesses there during the election and they didn't have shit to say. Now SA is excluded from this ban and they still have nothing to say.
The refugee ban has nothing to do with stopping terrorism.
I hope the ACLU lawsuit is effective.
Saudi Arabia seems to pretty much be America's 51st state.
Just now, jazzyjan said:People need to wake up and smell the roses. In ONE week, Trump is passing all of these disgusting racist, sexist and extreme right wing decisions. He is banning talk on climate change, stopping funding for abortion, halting universal health care and basically doing what he likes. Treating other countries like playthings and building a wall between the USA and Mexico. This is the new USA and unless people realize that and how dangerous and unstable Trump is, they are going to be in for a shock every week. Trump is behaving even worse than I imagined ( and that says a lot ) and all of his garbage about being anti establishment and caring for the working class has been shown up for the crap it is completely.
Some people say he's done good job wise for Americans so far. But how? It's only been a week. I know he signed some things before he was inaugurated, but I don't really know too much? It's not really my field as I'm not a working man of America...
Trump during his campaigning said he wants to put a temporary halt on Muslims until he figures out what the hell is going on and who America is giving arms to, he also said he thought waterboarding worked but took advice on torture and waterboarding, and respected that, right? So surely this too would have been something he would have been advised to reconsider or at the very least dilute. It is such a huge thing to propose let alone go ahead with and it's happened already.----
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3 minutes ago, LSD said:
It's a total farce. If anything, the countries selected are probably the ones that have been de facto green-lit for U.S. military adventures in the near future.
You might be right (hopefully not, I'm tired of war) but this article says that the list was already prepared. I'm unsure of what kind of website mic.com is however.
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‘Trump is right’ on border wall, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu tweets
Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, took to Twitter on Saturday to endorse President Trump’s plan to build a wall on the United States’ border with Mexico.
“President Trump is right. I built a wall along Israel’s southern border. It stopped all illegal immigration. Great success. Great idea,” Mr. Netanyahu tweeted.
The Israeli wall reference by the prime minister is a 150-mile barricade that extends from Eilat to Gaza adjacent to the country’s border with Egypt. It was completed in 2014, and has been attributed with drastically reducing the number of migrants who attempt to enter Israel from Africa. That statistic shrank from hundreds per month to only 213 during all of 2015, according to Jewish News Service, and Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman said recently that new fortifications to the fence “significantly curbed the flow of illegal infiltration into Israel, with only 11 successful attempts to cross the fence throughout 2016.”
Israel maintains another wall along its border with the Palestinian Authority, the likes of which has restricted for decades the freedom of nearly 2 million Palestinians confined to the Gaza Strip.
Mr. Trump has vowed to order the construct a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border in a bid to curb the influx of illegal immigrants, notwithstanding objection from Democratic politicians, human rights advocates and his Mexican counterpart.
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WHY ON EARTH DO FACEBOOK VIDEOS PASTE SO BIG?
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It seems he has made it his goal to prove doubters wrong, most thought he wouldn't go through with the promises... it's crazy but this week he seems to have got the ball rolling on it all, and this Muslim thing, it's unbelievable but he's doing it. Temporarily banning people on a mass scale like this is isolating to them and will be isolating to America too, as we've seen Iran's response and rightfully so, why should they take people?
This is not the answer to combat Islamic Extremism, which is a real issue no doubt, but when it comes to ISIS sympathisers or the likes performing their acts in the west, the fact is indoctrination happens for many Western radicals at home and their travel habits is what to keep an eye on more than anything. Sure ISIS said they will come in with the refugees, but America seems to have a very tight lock on who and who doesn't get in their 50 states, so this is extremely extreme and really stupid, it could and possibly will cause more trouble than anything. America is very insular, it's not as if it's Europe, a not too distant neighbour to these countries where ISIS has a hot bed, and even then a European ban on people from certain Islamic countries would be terribly extreme and not a good idea at all. There's a whole ocean and continent between the US and Islamic State territory. The reporter in the CNN video about Iran a few posts back describing this as a sledge hammer being used to fix a swiss watch described it right in my opinion.
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Live feed from JFK airport right now? It's not very informative, I think it's Fox News? It's just people gathering so far... :
Live feed by Nev from Catfish the TV Show
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Spazz is a Copt? I see! I love Egypt & it's history, and the Coptic Church is of interest to me as it has connections to the ancient past. When I go to Egypt I'd love to visit the churches, it breaks my heart to think of the turmoil they go through at times. The recent suicide bomb attack really broke my heart, same with the 21 men beheaded in Libya, it's unjust and awful.
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1 hour ago, Kim said:
And the message reached one of its intended targets without even being aimed funnily enough. I see right through you, dearie.
How could I have been an intended target if it wasn't aimed at me though? Anyway, I'm sorry you feel that way about me. I don't know any of you on here at all, I have no personal friendships on here sadly (no wonder
lol) but I do like to come here and read all your views and talk with you, whether we agree, disagree or whatever, it's fine.
I don't have any agenda to transform anyone's way or thinking or to slyly post political views in some hidden way what so ever, I'm repeating myself, but it's a Madonna forum, what is there to gain from it? Were not members of Parliament or in the Big Brother house where I'm trying to manipulate people to nominate others, it's only a discussion board. And like I said before, why would I care to be sly about anything anyway? Trump won! He's in the White house! My secret plan to turn you all red isn't necessary... let's wait until 2019. ;) So, until then I'll go back to my plan to get you all to #buyartpop, ugh, I'm failing miserably at that agenda too. -
OK JOANNE.. we get it.
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whose that? you have to admit it's amazing that 30+ years into her career Madonna still knows how to push buttons.
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No, no thrills. I do think it was necessary to mention though.
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4 minutes ago, pjcowley said:
Apart from Juanita Broaddrick?
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It's not a competition but it's important to recognize the women elsewhere who have a horrendous life. We've seen today women putting hijabs on one another in solidarity with the Muslims who feel they have been paying the price for Islamic fundamentalists behaviour and where as it is a nice gesture, it is important to remember that while we are using posters of hijabi girls, many other girls around this world see that fabric as oppressive, they are forced to wear it and have little rights and see America and Europe as the land of the free, they probably look on at us and wonder what is so terrible. It's not a competition but it's good to have perspective. That's why I asked before if any of the women from elsewhere had been spoken about on the podiums, the girls who are held hostage by ISIS as sex slaves, those who are gay in the middle east, those who are athiests or christians... yes, elsewhere to be christian is to be a minority lol. The world is a big place and a womans march which is apparently for women around the world has to take account of all women's lives, it's not a competition but some of us are much luckier than others, it's just how it is.
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Did anyone speak about women in other countries? Those with the big podiums I mean.
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I have to admit it guys, I voted for Trump to bring Cher & Madonna together. And even if we end up living with oxygen tanks on the moon... it was worth it.
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Oh no, this driving into crowds thing isn't new but it seems to be a weapon of choice as of late. I hope he was just a man with a bad heart or something but obviously not according to the report of him being taken and arrested and it being reported as deliberate.
The Great Camille Paglia!!!
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