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  1. What a 54yo child really @MerGirl
  2. Absolutely, all of the above Mainly, most of the times, it all boils down to jealousy. How many high profile women and not just in music have been snarky about her? And it's not just women of course but this thread focuses on her poignant Billboard Speech and females in the music industry Madonna has always praised women who came before her and cited them often as inspiration, the recognition hasn't always been mutual. Debbie Harry, Joni Mitchell, Chrissie Hynde ... Obviously also some of the people that started out with her or followed her had their digs, Suzanne Vega etc I think Madonna came onto the scene at a crossroads in the industry history, and that crossroads was MTV and the visual aspect blending in with sound which she was great in understanding and utilising to complete her already perfect melodies and great pop hooks, being the 360 total artist that she is, you just need to watch her New Music Seminar speech in the summer of 84 to notice how strong her conviction on this was, there she was, this 26 yo unknown girl making a fool of a panel of established, pompous, self-referential male acts with her smarts All those that preceded Madonna know about her genuine artistic roots, the Martha Graham/Pearl Lang connection, the band days etc and the jealousy stems from the fact that she was able to turn those credible, as unDisney like as they get origins (compared to most that followed) into one of the most bankable, mainstream and enduring careers ever, if not the most bankable mainstream and enduring one. They also know how she famously said no to Camille when she wanted to turn her into the next Pat Benatar and there u have it bingo. It proves how Madonna has always stuck to her guns and in a field where if you don't do as you are told they will kindly escort you to the nearest exit. Not Madonna. And did so without marrying a powerful honcho, inheriting etc she was the honcho. That she also expressed herself through a variety of platforms and style and enjoyed critical favour and several renaissances at different stages throughout her career is just too much for some to take I think the dead giveaway is when they start bending over backwards to praise the plagiarist, we have seen that with all the Elton one sided faux attention-seeking feuding and many other examples Cindy Lauper recently saying Madonna was not eloquent takes the biscuit. Madonna has as much artistry and vastly more curiosity, intellect, eloquence than all of them put together in the end and the stratospheric, diverse scope of her career is not the sole testament to that When did they ever, will they ever?? Never Haha you're acting right now
  3. He blocked you? How childish I don't think they have ever stopped liking her but they did make some very passive-aggressive and silly remarks in recent years (after they had done a whole interview back in 2013 for Corriere Della Sera praising her to the heavens, especially in relation to you know who). They clearly didn't like being called out as she rightly did on the IVF "synthetic babies" controversy and they haven't responded to that openly but did obviously keep a little grudge, then last year Madonna mistakenly posted a pic of a former Wheel Of Fortune Italian showgirl whose career famously started out as a Madonna lookalike and they mocked her in one of Gabbana's posts implying she was getting senile or "confused", even daring to tell her she needs to pay attention. Then FF to her Cuba Birthday celebrations last August and her wearing one of their creations ... I think they have been very jealous of her collaborations in recent years and friendship with Riccardo Tisci (another prominent Italian in fashion and younger so doube the jealousy), Jeremy Scott and her championing new talents and creative directors in general such as Alessandro Michele from Gucci. Gabbana even commented on some RH promo outfits claiming their heart and dagger design / spanish/ sacred heart motif was being copied, ridiculous of course http://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-madonna-idUSKBN0MF1XV20150319 Madonna weighs in on Dolce & Gabbana IVF controversy Madonna added her voice to the controversy surrounding fashion designers Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana, telling them to "think before you speak" after Dolce described children born to gay couples through fertility treatment as "synthetic." The performer joined other celebrities who criticized the Italian duo when she posted a message on Instagram along with a photograph of herself and a baby from Dolce & Gabbana's 2010/2011 winter collection campaign. "All babies contain a soul however they come to this earth and their families. There is nothing synthetic about a soul!! So how can we dismiss IVF and surrogacy?" said Madonna, who released her 13th studio album, "Rebel Heart," earlier this month. Pop star Elton John, who with his partner and husband David Furnish is the father of two children conceived through fertility treatment, slammed the designers for the comments and called for a boycott of the fashion brand. Celebrities ranging from designer Victoria Beckham to singer Ricky Martin rallied behind John after the Italian magazine Panorama published Sicilian-born Dolce's comments. "You are born and you have a father and a mother. Or at least it should be like this, that's why I am not convinced by chemical children, synthetic babies, wombs for rent," Dolce said. Madonna, a mother of four and a client of the designers, said God is involved in everything, including technology. "We are arrogant to think Man does anything on his own. As above so below! Think before you speak," she added on Instagram. In a statement released by the designers, who once had a romantic relationship and remain business partners, they said it was never their intention of judge other people's choices. Give me a vowel - You think before you press send Cuba August 2016
  4. Her taste is impeccable indeed Just looking at the background details of one of her IG posts you can get the umpteenth confirmation of that
  5. I find Carlos in his prime to be way hotter than A-Rod
  6. I admire Luca but he really needs to pause and reflect about the things he says. considering his intelligence and curriculum Otherwise you just sound petty and passive-aggressive Saying Madonna has achieved a lot despite not being an an excellent singer and dancer is tired Or saying that he's learned from Madonna how you can go very far in life by working hard backstage for that matter Especially if he were to look at some of the collaborations he did on Italian TV in recent years, awful Xfactor stars and all You don't get to be chosen and mentored by Martha Graham's heir Pearl Lang if you haven't got talent ------------------------------------------ The pic is lovely of course Another magical performance
  7. Absolutely fabulous Thank you Jamesy. Astounding to think that she didn't do any TV or radio around the TB release. Reminds you of Jane Pauley's words a year later in that 40min special for NBC. You are a megastar yet you haven't done much TV. When you think about stars today compared to Madonna or other acts from the 80s and 90s, they are constantly everywhere but the allure, mystery and megawatt effortless star quality are long gone
  8. Of course She should date whomever she feels like dating, I don't think anybody here would disagree with that