dario
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15 hours ago, Crystal Coffin said:
Still hoping for Madonna to go even more extreme for M15
give us any idea
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3 hours ago, Future feat Quavo said:
Madonna on her own can't get a US hit. Europe is possible if she does something more danceable but everything on Madame X is too "messy" for anyone outside the fandom to consider listening to.
If she wants a hit so badly she needs more female collabs. Her fans are like 80% gay men who want her to collab with other women, which is why M + Anitta was as big as it was, despite being an album cut.
yes Anitta the hit that went away AGAIN! Pretty sure it could have been huge in Brazil and big in Europe, Do you think the did not release it because it was a cover? so she won't get any coins there..you are right female collaboration sells more...
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2 hours ago, Crystal Coffin said:
Still hoping for Madonna to go even more extreme for M15
I want her to go back songwriting with Patrick Leonard and produced by a a undiscovered producer like Orbit/Mirwais type of producer...not more trap samples and no more collaborations
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2 hours ago, dylanciccone_ said:
You're romanticizing a lot of the 00's. After American Life, most her chart aside from the leads where in the latter half of the Billboard Hot 100 and beginning with Hollywood, some didn't even chart no matter with a label behind her. Warner and her had several issues that a lot of fans forget where lawsuits came into play and she wanted out.
I know the lawsuits ...but at least the leads went top 10 and other singles a couple of top 100, Europe keep supporting her. Since she left WB her single chart presence is really low you can't have hits only with youtube streaming, you need radio too
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12 minutes ago, Confessit said:
I agree with you totally IF we were having this debate a decade ago but she’s in her 60s now and had spent a decade away from the charts.
The boats sailed but I believe as I think you are adhering to the fact that had she of remained with Warner’s she could of enjoyed charts hits well into her 50s like she always had.
It is true as we still enjoying her music and we don't see age, we simply don't get the lack of promotion..I think it worked with 4 minutes... at the beginning it was seen as a joke but after a couple of weeks.. the song was a hit worldwide and triple platinum.. no one cares she was almost 50..They tried to do almost the same with Maluma, this time looking for a hit outside US but the lack of a supporting record company did not help this goal
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35 minutes ago, Kilt said:
Radio will not touch her songs, regardless how catchy and good are they. Make peace with it.
I know but the missing record company is an important key there...Record companies push those songs and owns a lot of radios and tv station, magazines...in my opinion, keep blaming her age for the lack of promotion on radio is not exactly a reality...she kept getting hits in her 40s and early 50s and most pop artists are over when they reach their 30s..after warner that ended specially in Europe
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12 hours ago, peter said:
Okay then, it was a top40 radio hit, which was his question. It was the last time she had a radio chart appearance. It was pushed because of the Super Bowl, which made sense.
The fact that her last radio chart appearance wasn’t a #1 ubiquitous smash hit is not really a shocker. I’m sure we’d all love for her to have her late-career “Believe”/Cher moment, but ... it makes logical sense that M’s chart peaks would start to slip downward.
I’ll correct my post above — I said top 10 mistakenly — I meant top 40.
So she didn't really has a record company that send her songs on radio, so how she's going to have a hit there..maybe GMAYL was only a deal with the Superbowl people....pretty sure they are very powerful and owns lots of stations in the US...She accept the superbowl for free and they have to promote the single through their stations....Still she made a song called Turn on the radio but they don't put her new music... the irony there....
She will never have another hit until she signs with other record company who really push her songs on radio...I only hear her Warner songs every time I go to the mall...I only heard once GMAYL at Cinemark, like couple of years ago..So it does not matter which song will be first or second single
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6 hours ago, peter said:
^ And yet ... then she didn’t film a video for Faz Gostoso, and she didn’t even have any tour dates in South America to build on the momentum.
And was Medellín even serviced to radio in those markets? I know you’re talking about streaming (Faz was a moderately popular track for streaming, yes?) ... but clearly there would have been some low-key success on radio just from the featuring players alone.
Since she left Warner does she ever has a radio hit? .. I don't think Live Nation has done anything about radio deals maybe Interscope who knows!
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7 hours ago, Confessit said:
Hmmm that’s the official story.
But Maluma is hardly an unknown. He has a massive online profile with over a billion hits on YouTube. He is absolutley massive in the Latin markets.
Whilst I agree he is not popular in America/Europe, no doubt Madonna and her team thought he would bring with him his online magic as he has done when he has collaborated with other artists.
I think the plan was to try and get her on the streaming/YouTube platform as radio is a non-starter.
Yes she admires Him and yes the album is a love letter to all things Latin, but he was chosen for his popularity online.
I remember loads of fans in here were convinced she was going to have an absolute smash in the Latin charts when it was announced M was working with both Maluma and Anitta. And it’s easy to see why everybody thought that as his videos online have massive viewing figures.
So there was certainly some strategy at play here.
agree with everything you said ..but Maluma is big in Europe too, he tours at big arenas there..look his Instagram he tours around the world..a week before they released Medellin, he released another collab. with Becky G...and it had more than 300 M till date..but that song is very commercial..I think Medellin was not supported on radio, the video is a little dark .... and GP prefer easy music ...like La Respuesta which is very basic..Medellin is so much better than anything Maluma has ever done.
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4 minutes ago, bardo said:
i believe this was post-liz and was done under bb gun, which is an indie PR firm they hired. they had no idea what to do with her. and lede company isn't much better. all they know how to do is one-size-fits-all strategy. they have no understanding of m's legacy or fanbase.
any M assistant should not allow those trashy sites to have an access to her. by giving them an interview it made them look like she is ok with all the crap they throw at her or maybe they wanted to put them at her side, still they let trash Rebel Heart and Madame x, they also did review her older albums trashing Bedtime and give only 8 to Ray of light or something..
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1 hour ago, dollhouse said:
And Beyonce is forgettable shit
lol, of course they just want to give her so much credit with that army of producers on every album that she does, and at the same time trash every M album why even bother to do that
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8 hours ago, rebelheart said:
Maluma wasn't used to get a hit, he hasn't even had a hit song himself in the US or Europe. They worked together because he suited the Latin vibe of both Medellin & Loca & they had great chemistry together. It was M's vision, not the record label.
to be used is too hard, I mean.. but there is nothing wrong with a duet with him, he is huge around the world minus US, look for his videos all over 900 M and he always tour in big arenas in Europe, to be honest I don't have a problem is she wants to work with current stars like him or Anita or Swae Lee, why not? I want her to still going to no.1, cause her music still amazing. My point was that if the track would have been produced by a "current" hit maker, it could have been bigger than it was.. if it was only for the artistry I prefer her to work with someone like Bjork so then it won't matter if it peak the charts or not.
In the end it helped more to his career, now he is most recognized in the US than before...so M is still helping new talent, she is always very supportive.
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so why a duet with Maluma? they sure need a hit otherwise there will not be new albums no more tours etc. I don't think she needs more hits but I don't think she wants to be a greatest hits artist or only doing theaters tours forever. a hit help the album to be known for new generations like Hung up did with Confessions and 4 minutes on the Sticky and Sweet tour.
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On June 19, 2019 at 8:44 AM, Plaything said:
Didn’t Madonna let Pitchfork interview her back in 2015? WHY?
Their scores for all Madonna albums were always horribly low (much lower than other publications). Even Celebration only got a 5.3 or something. How is that possible when it’s full of great tracks and hits? They should just stop reviewing Madonna stuff if they dislike her output so much. I bet they love the attention they are getting this week. It’s sickening.
Didn't M have a manager? he should know about the trash they always throw to her, why they allow them to do that interview where they basically lick her feet and later they review Rebel Heart with 5 or 6. They hate her and always put >Beyonce albums over 10 ratings
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On May 18, 2020 at 5:25 AM, karbatal said:
Did I just read that Medellin should have been remixed by a top 40 producer because Mirwais is too experimental?
Madonna crafted a new level of music album with Madame X. A musical journey. An statement from a music legend, touching topics such as guns, women rights in Africa, an LGTB+ empowerment anthem. A rich variety of sounds and stunning visuals. Are we really complaining about how radio friendly is it? Of course IS NOT AND NEVER WAS intended to be radio friendly. Madonna herself blocked that possibility, creating structures aimed to music art and not vapid radio stations. The only reason why she promoted Medellin with Maluma was to let the widest amount of people know that she had a new album out.
Sometimes I feel we don't deserve her.
I agree with the amazing journey that Madame X gave us, and I love it... but as any album it needed a hit, that is why they pick Medellin, a duet with a current pop star, because of his appeal to younger generations, still the video is very low on views, and the song was not a hit...Faz Gostoso, Bitch I'm loca and Crazy are also in the album and they are all pop singles produced by top 40 producers but they were not promoted.
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Medellin is a great song, and was a good choice for first single ... it shows a new sound for M...but it should have been produced by a top 40 producer. Mirwais is too experimental and his crazy ideas, which I love, pretty much killed any chance for the single to be big...and also too much Maluma, one part was enough but he has like 3....
God Control is amazing but as a first single it will be like American Life part 2 because of the controversy and Confessions part 2 because of the disco vibe..
Crazy also should have been a great single for radio after Crave
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9 hours ago, dcbyebyebaby said:
Dont say that too loudly or 3/4 the people on this forum will come for you.
Hopefully we continue to get more goodies!
she upload a video of this remix on her instagram, she is with us
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1 hour ago, Anne said:
The Kue Remix is amazing, on repeat
me too it could easily compete with any Dua Lipa song
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lets hope that pitchfork ends soon , they just make news trashing all music, after Rolling silly stone also ends soon. It is obvious they just give the album to the most silly gay on earth, cause its ¨Madonna so only gays get her¨ stupid reason
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After all I love how this guy show how much she hates her, he knows that MOriah Carey would never make an album as impactful as Madame X, even MDNA sounds bigger than anything Carey has released all these years
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it is time for Madonna Fans act against these haters after all she always fight against everyone for us, why don't we do anything at al!!l....if this was a Beyonce album with that review or Gaga! damn those fans know how to press these haters disguise as critics..Pitchfork is a joke right now they lost all credibility like 10 years ago, and they always trash all Madonna albums, why do they need to review them? they are just a bunch of old hipsters, they always skip most pop albums...but not Madonna they review even the live albums. the most stupid line is that Madonna trying to do the awful we belong together song with Crave, lol
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14 hours ago, Shane said:
Does Anitta just have that one verse or is she singing in unison with Madonna somewhere else? I hardly hear her on this fantastic song.
i think they are singing together almost all the time ,their voices are pretty similar. you see in the interview M is interested in doing the video, I guess , it could be big on youtube like BIM, Brazil has 200 mill people, most artist there, don't need to go out cause their market is huge
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9 hours ago, Andra said:
Jimmy GENUINELY loves her, so i can't wait. And yeah, are the corsets the new grilz? I hope she stops wearing those stupid uncomfortable things.
KImmel is so much better please M go there, not ellen or fallon, Kimmel and of course Wendy, lol it would help she needs some black people by her side again.
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9 hours ago, Napoléon said:
Looking forward to this. Would really love to see her on Jimmy Kimmel though. He’s talked about her on his show plenty on times and is always positive and respectful. I find him funnier than Fallon top.
Kimmel is so much better than Dumb fake smiles Fallon..Never understand why she never go to abc to promote her music, Did they banned her?
'God Control' should have been the first single from Madame X
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those fake hits are completely forgotten..There are Madonna hits that don't peak charts like La isla bonita and Material girl, still they are bigger than Mariah's 18 no.1....I think it could be more important to have her new songs on radio because of demographics