Cesky
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4 hours ago, Kurt420 said:
Exactly! Have never understood why it was one or the other. Perhaps they were concerned that stretching out the life of Music would interfere with GHV2 (the most pointless release of her career), which is totally ridiculous.
I can totally see why WB wanted Amazing as a single and it would've hit too. In an era of totally interchangeable songs by BSB, Nsync, Britney etc, I don't think Madonna having a single that bears a resemblance to another that was over 2 yrs old at that point would've mattered much. Similar doesn't = copy......the songs ARE different after all.
As for II, I think I'll always be disappointed that they didn't jump on the chance to release that. No doubt it would've been risky (but even Music the song was a risky choice for first single) at that time though, Madonna could afford to release "quirky" singles like that. She was coming off of 3 (4 if you count BS) back to back major hits! Probably the last time she could "safely" do something like that and still get at the very least a top 40 out of it. Have to say though, I think II would've smashed.....just based on reactions to the song within my own circle at that time. To this day, it's such a cool and FRESH song. Add an epic video into the equation and Madonna would've easily had another top 10 on her hands.....especially had it been the 3rd single instead of WIFLFAG. At least it became a number one on the dance charts!
Anyways......all water under a very old bridge at this point I suppose.....lol.
It was a fascinating time! I think there was an opportunity to release II in a similar way to Drowned World during Ray of Light. Don't Tell Me was released in Jan 2001 in the US whereas it was released Nov 2000 in Europe, which meant DTM hung around a lot longer in North America. II could've been released as a Europe-only single in early 2001, and then things could have gotten back on a uniform global schedule for WIFLFAG in spring.
At least from a US perspective, I really don't think II was a smash waiting to happen. I think it's reception would've been more along the lines of Bedtime Story to be honest. Amazing would have definitely done well, though. I think even WIFLFAG could've done better than it did, but it was released too late and really wasn't promoted that well.
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33 minutes ago, Ugly Hecty said:
This is very common practice on Hot AC/AC stations for songs that have a rap feature and even on adult contemporary stations worldwide. Even Spain leaves out the rap verses in radio edits of english pop songs.
What people re saying is that there is no rap in Crave. This is a verse sung by a black man, but rap that does not make.
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5 hours ago, Jitterbug said:
I like the rap in Crave but i would love a Madonna only version for the song. I didn’t like the Maluma rap in Medellin. I generally don’t like rappers as i find they are so full of themselves.
There is literally no rap in Crave
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Just now, Shane said:
NME loves Crazy and is the first to say something nice about Looking For Mercy!
Crazy has been pretty well received aside from The Daily Mail I believe.
I'd say God Control, Batuka, and I Don't Search I Find are the most consistently liked overall. Haven't seen much negative out Come Alive either. And then Medellin and Crave from the already released songs have been pretty universally praised.
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I Don't Search, I Find: Everyone seems to like this one
God Control: Sounds like peak bonkers Madonna/Mirwais
Crazy: Varying descriptions, but seems classic pop with slight Latin flavor
Batuka: Cape Verde influence and another one that everyone seems to like
Most curious about: Dark Ballet
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19 minutes ago, Shane said:
It’s even funnier with Crazy. We’ve seen that one referred to as upbeat, trap, a mid tempo soul ballad, and trip hop.
One of them called Crave country-influenced lol
It's shocking to me how poorly these reviews (whether they're positive or mixed) are written. Some of the British ones read like they were written in a foreign language and then translated into English or something.
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6 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:
Strange kind of review. Did not really review the songs in any great detail. The Rolling Stone reviews and magazine are not what they used to be at all unfortunately.
Yeah, there's very little discussion of the songs?
Madonna's music is very rarely accurately received at the time of release anyway. (see Erotica especially)
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4 minutes ago, Bat-Fan said:
What song do you think is her next single? Killers or Dark Ballet? Any romours? ☺ I just hope we get more than 2 this album.
She’s never gone below 3 so here’s hoping! I don’t believe we have a reliable rumor for the third single choice.
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1 hour ago, Flip The Switch said:
That’s the regular 13 track version.
But it's dark hair on the vinyl! And it's 2019 and you can picture whatever cover you want as you listen on your computer lolz
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I feel that the 15-track version is the "real" version. It was the one played at the listening events, it seems to be the one that will be reviewed by critics.
The extra 3 tracks on the super deluxe or whatever feel like the bonus tracks, while Extreme Occident and Looking for Mercy seem like part of the core Madame X especially since they aren't just added on to the end. Although if Looking for Mercy is really the worst track, maybe it should just be a 14-track album haha.
I don't really get why the 13-track version exists.
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40 minutes ago, Confessit said:
Must be for Pride it's too early for rehearsals for the tour.
I would think there's a decent amount of crossover (ie. that the Pride performances will probably be early versions of the tour performances)
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6 minutes ago, Andyrs said:
What does she mean by ''workshop''?
It's like a pre-rehearsal, where the final choreography isn't down and you're working things out
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It's kind of awesome they're even including Medellin!
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59 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said:
He did post about Crave and he did talk about working with Madonna in a Variety interview a few days ago.
Maybe he is just not like Maluma. Doesnt mean he wasnt happy.
Swae Lee is also just not as active on social media as Maluma
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19 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said:
Any new info about the album?
Nope! Pretty fluffy, mostly about family. The DJ seemed to genuinely love Crave, though, so that was nice
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42 minutes ago, Nikki said:
can anyone hear the interview? the site is still not working
It's working for me now! About 9 minutes long
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2 minutes ago, Confessit said:
It is a lot but she hasn't done any TV interviews yet and she has done them with every album campaign except MDNA so I think that's why everyone is a little puzzled as to why it's all quite this week considering there is a planned 4 weeks between the exposure of the Eurovision and the album dropping it seems odd one of those weeks is left empty. Minus the Crave video of course.
We'll see. A lot of times her TV appearances are only announced a week or less before.
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3 hours ago, Messiah said:
You misunderstood what I wrote or maybe I wasn't clear enough. It's a so-and-so, weak track for a (2nd) single.
Other than that, I really like it.
What I'm saying is that I don't think that's the consensus. I think Crave is the best song she's released as a single since Get Together and I don't think that's an outlier opinion.
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6 minutes ago, frzndrwnwrld said:
I wonder this too. Maluma's videos on YouTube get 100 million+ views...…. except for Medellin. So, I don't know if his fans are boycotting or something. It's very odd. You would think they would be interested to at least view it once! I'm not expecting many Swae Lee giving a crap about Crave. This is why I'm against these type of collaborations being done specifically to be popular. It doesn't work. I'm hoping that future albums are solo.
Again, want to push back on this. I don't think there's much evidence of this. Maluma and Swae Lee are very integrated on their respective songs and their presence has been widely praised as additive. I think Quavo on Future is more debatable.
Maluma fans aren't boycotting Medellin lol. Madonna, very unfairly, is simply not cool to young people. No musician, especially female, over 50 is.
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18 minutes ago, Messiah said:
... And are these strategies working? This is what bothers me, it seems like she and her team don't learn from the past...
I agree about the first single, it's meant to create hype, discussions, promo etc. A big name next to you can help, but for 2nd single too? And for a "so-and-so" track? Not so sure.
I agree with you though, I am 100% sure there's more promo coming, especially prior and post album release.
I want to push back on this a bit. Check even our fan rating/ranking thread. The consensus is not that Crave is a so-so track. The consensus is that is a very good, catchy track.
I know the Mirwais material will appeal most to a certain set of the fanbase, but Crave is really well liked overall.
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30 minutes ago, Blinko said:
I like Crave video better than Medellin, I like Ghost Dog, The Way of the Samurai inspiration.
I believe Crave single was originally created to be more faster and up tempo tune. Madonna dance and moves is more energetic, speed up and it does not sync with the music.The video was shot two weeks ago
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5 minutes ago, johndvd25 said:
What possible tv shows in the US she can promote crave? Are there any upcoming big events or award shows? Saturday Night live or MTV movie awards maybe?
The summer is kind of a bad time for that. SNL I think is over for the season. I don't think music is performed at the MTV movie awards. Late night (Jimmy Fallon) and Ellen are probably the best bets?
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I like the video! It's simple but that's what compliments the song. Anything much more would've felt like overkill. And she does look gorgeous!!
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1. Crave 8.5 trending toward 9
2. Medellin 8
3. Future 7.5 trending toward 8
(Soltera 7)
4. I Rise 6.5
“Dark Ballet” thread
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Nope! Sometimes a sign can be what's on the album sticker (which we should actually find out any day now at this point for Madame X). Rebel Heart listed LFL, GT, and BIM. It's not always right though. Confessions listed Hung Up, Sorry, and Jump (leaving Get Together off) and Hard Candy listed 4 Minutes and Beat Goes On (presumably to get Kanye's name on there).