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  1. 12 minutes ago, loowee said:

    Then you're in for a surprise.

    Trump is NOT the one to be scared of, it's the evil people behind him that will get to control everything, esp Mike Pence.

    The republicans will now control the house, the senate and the supreme court very soon and they can do whatever they want, LITERALLY.  The GOP hasn't had this much power since...I don't even know when.

    Something WILL happen to LGBT rights within the next 4 years. Just wait for it. 

    I very aware that Trump will try to decimate Obama's legacy and progressive advancements. But will that make America a Russian-style democracy? No. Is America suddenly under the control of white supremacists? Hell, no! That's hysteria.

    Things will change and it may be harder for the LGBT community to advance some of its agenda. If he does a bad job, he'll be out in 4 years and probably will help the Repubs lose the Senate (they are not losing the House anytime soon). 

    The presidential electorate is in favor of Dems. They lost this time because of arrogance. They will not lose next time. Well, unless Trump does a great job.

    All of this overreaction is just energizing his supporters. 

  2. 4 hours ago, MeakMaker said:

    People who have sympathised or are sympathising with Trump so that "evil, murderous, treacherous, Middle East and Egypt-destroyer and crooked" Hillary Clinton won't be president are missing the point but as usual with these things it's way too early to have an intelligent debate. Dumb people will always laugh it all off! 

    Lets wait for the times when minorities rights will be challenged by the Trump administration. Let's not forget the Hillary hating people who voted for Trump don't give two shits about gay rights or African American or Hispanic or Muslim rights! America is now at the hands of a conservative White supremacy and trust me it is no laughing matter. 

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    This is a president who doesn't even believe climate change is an issue. This is a president who wants to put more money on national defence ( army)!  He thinks every Muslim is a terrorist because they "don't report each other"(!). He will take away from women the rights for abortion ( so called Pro life conservative groups have tried that for decades now and Trump will give it to them). His closest representive ( the Vice President) believes being gay is a choice. Won't be surprised to see a Russia style take on homosexuals. 

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    And last but not least Trump never responded well to criticisms. I can bet all the gold in the world that he's not happy about all these protests taking place in the US. He with his new administration will find way to stop giving rights to people for protest or speak their mind about the head of state. It will be another Putin- style "democracy". Mark my words. I find alarming a lot of influential and powerful people who mocked Trump during the election are now starting to lick his arse! 

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    People, this is no laughing matter. Hate won. Do you stand by hate? Do you stand by discrimination? Do you think hate and discrimination will make America great again?! Think again before you write. This is not just about Trump. This is also about a society that is losing its essential quest for acceptance and respect towards all humans. Which side are you on?

    Please, discuss. 

     

    Wow.

    You grossly overestimate the power of the President. Unlike other democracies, America has very strong checks and balances that would prevent him from accomplish what you described.

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    You need a Xanax. The world is not ending.

  3. 2 hours ago, Toni said:

     

     

    Yep, this was an election for the Democratic Party to lose given the changing demographics and, boy, did it ever lose... Most of the establishment Dems got there by some sort of Clinton connection (they have been there forever...) and so no one was willing to challenge to coronation of Hillary. It's clear to see now that Sanders would have beat Trump easily in the Rust Belt. Dems picked the wrong candidate, the only one that could have lost to Trump. This election was lost not because more people voted for Trump. They didn't and this graph totally proves that. The election was lost because of the candidate and what she stood for, not her gender.

    This commentator has some good insights on why most Democrats didn't vote for Hillary. 

    "On the surface, it's astounding that a man who ripped off thousands of people who worked for him became the champion of the regular Joe. But, as Bernie Sanders reiterated (...) , the problem is that people have ceased to see a difference between the parties, particularly on economic issues. I'll briefly cite a few examples. 

    Starting out with NAFTA, Bill Clinton forced "free trade" upon the party. I warned multiple times during the election that Trump would make inroads with voters in the Rust Belt unless Democrats made a clean break from corporate trade deals. Around the globe, these deals are a key tool to drive down wages, exploit workers and prosecute global class warfare. But, the current president still serves up the malarkey about the benefits of these deals.
    Bill Clinton's broader economic agenda was even more corrosive. During Clinton's so-called "good economy," the decline of organized labor continued. The president, and his secretary of labor, Robert Reich, did very little to arrest the decline.
    No Democratic president was more focused on letting business interests off the leash. He gave more power to media companies, triggering consolidation and a powerful wave of concentration of the media into a few hands. The average person, not steeped in policy, understood this every time he or she opened their skyrocketing cable bills.
    Hand-in-glove with Wall Street, Clinton got rid of the Glass Steagall Act, which removed the separation between commercial banks, insurers and investment banks, allowing the self-dealing manipulation of mortgages and interest rates and accelerating the shifting of huge wealth into the hands of a few.
    Again, the average person, just trying to make ends meet, eventually got the sharpest end of that spear when millions of people lost their homes, jobs and retirement in the thundering collapse known as the Great Recession, which, for many, has been a depression.
    There is so much more: A planet dying because for years fossil fuel interests were coddled. Welfare reform. Mass incarceration of people of color, which had both racial and economic consequences. The praise of the Clinton years, and red-faced defense by its leader, was always couched in contrast to the Reagan and two Bush Administrations. Great.
    Feeding off the Clinton machine, the Democratic Party has become riddled with lobbyists, billionaires, and hustlers who pocket huge sums of money by running either nonprofit "think tanks" or election-cycle networks, and politicians who, indeed, are focused mostly on reelection. Surrounding the party are extremely well-paid non-profit leaders, who end up defending the status quo.
    Chief component of the Clinton machine in recent years, the Clinton Foundation operated somewhat out of sight.
    The big donations streaming from anti-union powerhouses like Wal-Mart or big financial entities like Bank of America not only whitewashed the policies of interests directly opposed to what the Democratic Party should stand for, but they also clouded the deeper systemic crisis within the party. We can only address climate change, poverty and global inequality by axing the very system benefiting many of the donors to the Clinton Foundation."
    It's too late now and lessons will be learned. Hopefully, the right to vote in this country will not be taken for granted so much. But I do have a hard time with people, especially those living outside the US, that keep labeling this country as racist and bigoted. People, Trump didn't even get the majority of the votes! And I bet that a lot of people voted against her and not for him. Now, if you're a big Hillary fan, this may be hard to understand because you most likely had to turn a blind eye to the many red flags in her past. People do that often. They turn a blind eye to the negative traits of a person when they believe that his or her good traits trump (pun intended) their flaws. 
    Hillary fans were willing to lose this election by supporting a very disliked establishment candidate when Americans in general has been voting for change ever since Obama was elected. Obama won against Hillary because he was the candidate of change! He beat her because she was the establishment. If dems did it, then why would the general electoral body not do it? 
    I also think it is very disingenuous to paint a misogynistic brush over the election's results. Fathers talking to their daughters and explaining why America still does not have a female president need to be careful in not putting the blame on a constituency that cannot handle a woman in power. That's bull. There are people like that (a lot of them even) but they are the minority, they can't elect presidents. Dems voted for a man instead of woman back in 2008, is the race of person more important than their gender? Dems voted for Obama because they wanted change and not because she was a woman. Hillary's track record and not her gender is what worked against her. 
     
     
     
     
  4. 48 minutes ago, Django said:

     

    So are the US super friends the Saudi royal family, yet the US has great a great relationship with a country that for instance kills atheists, crucifies children for their opinions, beheads women who are raped among many other "nice" things, such as finance terrorism worldwide and spread the worst kind of Islam interpretation there is out there -Wahabbism- which has helped islamic radicalization worldwide. This has a name: HYPOCRISY. 

    And when i talk about "the US" I mean the administration and the government international policies, not its citizens. We, regular people, are just pawns. 

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  5. 1 minute ago, MeakMaker said:

    As if. It's not even about that imho. I think humans in general have become evil, more self centered and incredibly ignorant. The media can only warn you or say something. Let's not forget how it was more a social media battle... that's how peeps get their information now. I don't think peeps went to vote to spite the media. I think it's happening in the same vein of Brexit. Peeps have just lost their minds! Simple as. They just would rather choose hate and division than moving forward together for the sake of all human beings. It's a nasty scenario to live through and unfortunately we are all witnessing it in front of our very eyes. 

     

    Do you know a lot of Americans? 

  6. 5 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

    I say it again. That is simply not true. The media was hiding because they were afraid someone could call them biased.

    In America? Really? He was called a xenophobe, racist, white supremacist, rapist, chauvinist, tax evader, bigot... by all networks, newspapers and online media ALL THE TIME. 

  7. On a more serious note, this vote is sooooo American. 

    Americans in general cannot tolerate being told what to do. The polls and pundits were so sure that she would win. The media lost its credibility by giving overblown attention to every accusation towards the Orange One and not doing the same with Hillary. For a while, it just felt like there was not way he could win. 

    This is Brexit².

    P.S.: Foreigners, if you want your candidate to win in America you need to vocally support their opponent in every way you can. America loves to act like a rebellious 16 year old. 

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  8. 1 minute ago, ULIZOS said:

    Get ready, world! 

    Dollar, Mexican peso, stocks tumble as Trump takes election lead

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    The U.S. dollar sank and stocks plummeted as mayhem came to world markets on Wednesday as investors faced the possibility of a shock win by Republican Donald Trump that could upend the global political order.

    Every new TV network projection in the U.S. presidential election showed the race to be far closer than anyone had thought, sending investors stampeding to safe-haven assets.

    Sovereign bonds and gold shot higher while the Mexican peso went into near free-fall as AP gave Florida to Trump.

    As of 0335 GMT, Trump was leading Democratic rival Hillary Clinton by 36 Electoral College votes, with a tally of 167-131.

    It takes 270 to win.

    U.S. stock futures recoiled more than 4 percent, a loss reminiscent of the carnage that followed the British vote to leave the European Union in June.

    Markets fear a Trump victory could cause global economic and trade turmoil, discouraging the Federal Reserve from raising interest rates in December as long expected.

    Fed fund futures were even starting to toy with the idea of a cut in rates next year <0#FF:> and it was possible the Bank of Japan and European Central Bank might be forced to ease policy further.

    South Korean authorities were thought to have intervened to steady their currency, and dealers were wondering if central banks globally would step in to calm nerves.

    The scale of the scare was clear in the Mexican peso, which plunged more than 10 percent against the dollar in the biggest daily move in two decades.

    "There's a lot of panic in the market, it is definitely an outcome it was not expecting," said Juan Carlos Alderete, a strategist at Banorte-IXE.

    The peso has become a touchstone for sentiment on the election as Trump's trade policies are seen as damaging to its export-heavy economy.

    But the story was very different against the safe-haven yen, with the dollar shedding 3 percent to 102.02 yen. The euro gained 1.5 percent to $1.1190.

    Asian stocks also skidded, with MSCI's broadest index of Asia-Pacific stocks outside Japan down more than 3 percent, and the Nikkei sinking nearly 5 percent.

    Graphic of live election results: tmsnrt.rs/2fxyZV0

    Graphic of live market reaction: tmsnrt.rs/2fXfo0L

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