MeakMaker
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I have always wondered if they call a fan or group of fans for the listening of a new album. M usually says she has friends and obvz her manager and team. But what about the fan base who ultimately is the target audience?Â
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@Rock wow, thats real nice of you. Thank u so much.Â
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2 hours ago, DagIN said:
No lies detected, his sound is absolutely magical. Do you have a link? I'm not sure I have ever seen that interview.
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7 hours ago, flexy said:I was watching an interview that M gave in 2000 on the French show ' Nulle Part Ailleurs' and she described Mirwais's sound as "magical". I thought that was interesting to note especially as she uses the #magic when referring to Mirwais.
Mirwais really gave her a sound. No one had that sound back then. I think she went even deeper with Music (the Mirwais tracks anyways) in terms of edgy, ground breaking music. Just thinking of the folk electronic mix.. how new it was. She really paved the way. After listening to Skin anybody would think you cant top that and then she gives us Impressive Instant. Thats one of her best dance tracks ever!
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Unless she has studio time booked somwhere in the world can we say the album is pretty much done? And of course i welcome any spread and interview. Didnt she do the Harper Bazar spread  almost 1 year before the release of RH? That was iconic! And she got tons of press for it so its all good.Â
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37 minutes ago, runa said:
The only things we hear about MDNASHIT is from her fanbase to be honest. Never read or seen anything about it elsewhere. Kinda tragic if you ask me.
Your hate for MDNASkin is blinding you. We never hear anything about Material Girl either but that doesnt stop it from being a very successful clothing line at Maceys. Just because you dont like it or not interested that doesnt make it necessarily a flop. Im not discussing the reasons why so many fans are not into these skincare products because thats irrelevant to the actual success of this business. And they did have articles about MDNASkin and they all seeemed to be very positive.Â
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7 minutes ago, luluthecat said:
Iâm actually desperate for her to post NOTHING from the shoot, I donât want any ideas........no doubt sheâll post everything
She ll post a picture with grills and hat on.Â
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1 minute ago, Confessit said:
Why would anybody think she was on the way out ?
She has just had a massive album with huge top ten singles all over the world.....plus she had the highest grossing tour ever for a solo artist on the back of it.
Thats statement makes no sense whatsoever.
Because radio wouldnt play any of her new music nomore. Mtv or music channels rarely played her videos. Some other wannabes came along.. i mean should i carry on? lol
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5 minutes ago, elijah said:
But they did their best to damage her career by making zero to promote her. Interscope = the worst. I remember we were so bitchy about WB in 2008/2009, cause HC sold 1/2 of COADF and we blamed WB. Little did we know what a shitty "company" she ll sign to.
But this is not about the blaming game. The she didnt sell much or have hits because of Warner or Interscope way of thinking is very limited and subjective.Â
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Just now, Confessit said:
But the demand for Madonna music was still there when she signed on the dotted line with Interscope.Â
They didnât sign a failing artist they signed a massivly successful one who had just had a global number one multi-million selling album and a global number one single.Â
Thatâs all Iâm saying
Yes but anybody would have sensed she was on the way out. I know its a very shameful thing to even think but sadly thats exactly how they must have perceived in this ageist industry. I think the problem with RH was the leaking. That completely destroyed the momentum of the first single. It was a shame. Interscope wasnât responsible for the leaking and if they were Madonna had materials leaked under Warner as well. Â
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9 minutes ago, Confessit said:
Of course Madonna made Madonna but you do need the weight of a mega record company to make and sustain the kind of career Madonna has enjoyed.
Its the same with Hollywood you need a mega studio to have faith no matter how good the material is.
We are not falling out just putting forward different points of view based on record company support.
One things for sure Madonna has her core fans and she has kept them throughout regardless of what label she is on.Â
Thatâs something rare and makes her a true icon.
#Livingforlove
Exactly. The weight was there because there was a demand. People loved Madonna. The more they loved her the more they promoted her and supported her. Kids, adults, blacks, whites. It was all new back then. This huge female pop artist captivating the world. Warner did what they could. In my opinion they did great. Not saying EMI or another big record company could have done even better. Thats just suppositions.
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Just now, Confessit said:
Warnerâs in America didnât drop her after American Life she recorded a European sounding album that was never going to be as big in the states as it was in Europe.
Confessions was a mega era and it was fully supported by Warnerâs....it did exceptionally well considering the musical landscape at the time of release.
After America Life flopped hard Warnerâs pulled out all the stops so in 2005 Madonna had what many consider a mini revival. Hung Up was her biggest single ever and she was everywhere again. A lot of that era is owed to Warnerâs massively supporting her.
Never said Confessions wasnât successful in the US. It wasnt Music though and yes it was huge in the rest of the world but Madonna came back really strong with a very sellable album and a brand new image who record company wouldnât promote or support that?All im saying Madonna always delivered guys. You just trying to redicule me with things i never even said like Warner is shit or did nothing. My point is how could you the fuck not? You have signed fucking Madonna. Who records company wouldnât promote the shit out of True Blue with this sexy blonde who already sold millions of records only months ago? Who wouldnt promote a song like Like A Prayer? This sexy chic going all darey and mystic? Vogue, guys? Come on. Now Madonna changed the game. Warner just went along.Â
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10 minutes ago, Confessit said:
But playing devils advocate when Madonna was 50 Warnerâs manages to make sure she was still getting played globally and scoring top ten chart hits.
This was un heard of territory but they did it.
Now sheâs had a decade off the charts she is well out of it but she wasnât at 50.
The point is had she of remained thereâs no reason why she couldnât still enjoy a chart presence and success.
She went from top ten hits globally to zero in 3 years....
Well, of course when you put it like that it makes sense but let me suggest you how Warner literally dropped Madonna after American Life in the US. I think the Warner team in Europe decidely did a better job but Europe has always been more accepting towards artists over a certain age. I personally think her popularity is not necessarily subjected to how her record company works with or for her. I think there's so much more than that to discuss the underselling of her last records or lack of hits.
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6 hours ago, karbatal said:
What do you mean about Erotica, Bedtimes Stories or Confessions???? THEY WERE GREAT. With Erotica they didn't give up but release a great bunch of songs and high quality videos till the very end. All beautifully marketed.Â
With Bedtime STories they knew Madonna was wrong with her idea of having BS as first single and went for Secret insteaad, restablishing her as a SINGER.
With Confessions it was one of the most impecable campaigns EVER.Â
Really, sometimes...Â
Rebel Heart is a great album as well. Id say its as good as Bedtime Stories. Never said those were not good albums. I was basically stating that M wasnt always the biggest seller under Warners. I dont understand this acrymony towards Interscope. Surely they can do a lilttle bit more to promote her but the real issue is another one imho. The problem here is her age. The music industry wont support or promote artists over a certain age, certainly females. Thats not an Interscope priority.Thats how this world goes. We can all bitch about, blame, attack, hate on the record company, the managers, the producers, etc.. we are all barking at the wrong tree.Â
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7 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:
Are you seriously putting Warner's support of Madonna at the same level of Interscope ? Interscope does nothing to promote, support and nurture Madonna and never have. They do the minimum amount of work possible. Live Nation does not care about their artists either. Warmers was a professional, properly run record company who knew that Madonna was a superstar.Â
Madonna was in her early 20âs when she was signed to Warner and you really think any other label would not have achieved the same? You think if EMI for example would have signed her she would have never become who she is? Yes Warner did help but I personally give M most of the credit. Â
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27 minutes ago, loowee said:
No one here is worshipping Warner. We want them back simply because the support she received back then was a lot when COMPARED to her current Interscope situation. They always know how to launch a new era with a killer lead single promo campaign. Yes they were pretty shitty at keeping an albumâs commercial longevity but it also had to do with M too. Are we now blaming Erotica and ALâs commercial failure on Warner too? Really?
Well yes if we are all comfortable blaming Interscope for the demise of her last records so why not blame Warner for the failure of the albums she did under them? Truth is itâs easier to point fingers and criticise record company or management but maybe its all down to general public. If a record or album doesnt resonate with an audience id say thats exactly why theyre not successful anything else its all down to speculation. Analysis are good but we also have to consider the times and the level of popularity M enjoyed when she was under Warner. Her cultural impact. Her age as well of course.
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Oh please letâs stop this Warner worshipping now. Its pathetic.
Where was Warner for Erotica, Bedtime Stories, American Life, Confessions ( States side), Hard Candy? They fucked her up as much as Interscope. Too easy to support and promote her when shes the number 1 pop star in the world. But as soon as she showed signs of slowing down they completely left her to her own demise. American Life anyone? Even Warner Europe didnt do much for her during Erotica and Bedtime Stories. But oh yes see her becoming this restrained balladeer with Youâll See and then theyre back licking her ass again. They were just bloodsucking bigots who would always try to tame her and stop her from being political as soon as records sales were going down. Its all business after all and Interscope is no different.
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10 minutes ago, elijah said:
In reality we can not be sure what God is all about. If we look at the Old Testament we ll see a cruel, heartless God not afraid to ask a father (Abraham) to sacrifice his son (Isaac). I say the link between a man and God is a very personal and unique experience. But just for the fact that it is unique I believe that the best thing that could have been done has been to separate state from religion. You can't make something subjective objective. So everyone is free to explore the God-man connection or not and I think that is the best possible scenario. Some ppl may not be that spiritual and that's fine. You shouldn't force a religion on ppl that are not ready or will never be ready. If you force your interpretation of religion and spirituality, its a dictate and its as far attached from God as possible.
Well of course i dont agree with berating people about God or religion. And yes it has to be a completely personal experience. But I still believe that if the whole of humanity reached their true consciousness which is love and acceptance for any human being this world would be a better place for all of us. And thats not something you can force on people.. you either have it inside of you or not.
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3 minutes ago, Nikki said:
Which is why I think her fans right now should be a little nicer. Sheâs obviously saying things that she feels strongly about. I think people are misunderstanding something she said that she meant with good intentions. I think sheâs not feeling great and sometimes fans forget sheâs human. Her texts online are messy just like they are with many people who use autocorrect and cellphones.
Exactly. The post is messy and comes across weird but then again she might be feeling a certain way for a number of reasons and then she looks at the world around her and she finds no solace and shes basically venting her frustrations freely. As i said most people wont get it as we  are living in a society where anything has to be laid down perfectly for us with no room for interpretation or personal thinking. Especailly if we donât necessarily agree with something we are willing to go down a war path rather than trying to understand what someone might be coming from.Â
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8 minutes ago, elijah said:
Iran
Saudi Arabia
etc.
there are too many theocratic societies yet I dont see anyone moving to those places.
I really dislike that oh poor us we live in Godless society crap. Western world is the best world there is. You can CHOOSE to live as an ascetic monk, to party senseless, join a sect, be spiritual or be atheist. The human kind is evil: when one believes he can speak FOR God, he becomes cruel and heartless. Beware what you wish for.Â
Your talking about a man made God inflicted upon us by the patriarchal society. The true God is all about acceptance, love, beauty, enjoying life in its true essence. Its all about how our consciousness interacts in this reality. Unfortunately these big religions have been spreading wrong ideas of God throughout centuries.. thats why this world is still fragmented.Â
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50 minutes ago, Katypatra said:
The suicide reference you can blame on Kabbalah which preaches that some people kill themselves because of the disconnect.Â
What you mean âblameâ on Kabbllah? lol I think the suicide comment was a direct response to whats going on lately. And yes as Kabbalah preaches all our problems as humans come from disconnecting from The Light ( God if you like). And since we are living in a Godless society with no spiritual understanding a lot of people fall into desperation and contemplate to even kill themselves. Thats how i interpreted it anyways.   Overall the post is a free rant about the state of things; most people wont get what she means. Or maybe they just disagree but only a few can truly understand it and embrace it.Â
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8 hours ago, CalinB said:
What is this about? Is M angry?
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This.
Hope shes going to give us a song about this state of things.Â
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4 hours ago, Kurt420 said:
Same here...disco in it's traditional, rudimentary definition anyways. It's funny that COADF is always referenced as a "disco throwback" but to me it has always only been that in it's imagery. Sound wise, it was always more just a modern, electronic/electro type of sound. HC was always more conventional "disco" to me.....yet it was always deemed as R&B/Hip-Hop. I think people took the names associated with the album and ran with it since they're usually associated with that genre. No doubt it has R&B influence obviously but....isn't that what the "roots" of disco are anyways??Â
It did have 70s Disco elements throughout the album though. Hung Up sample was from Abba; Sorry had the bassline taken from a Jackson 5 song; Future Lovers had the I feel Love sample. Those were very palpable references.Â
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44 minutes ago, elijah said:
What famous song has been disco in the last 10 years? The only one I can think of is Get Lucky. I don't think COADF music has been heard since... like 2005. As for Orbit and MDNA situation, apart from Orbit, she chose to collaborate with ppl she obviously had zero chemistry. Orbit contribution was definitely better than the others, but there were problems with mixing. Love Spent remains one of her best songs although you hardly hear her voice. MDNA could easily have been an amazing album had she spent more time in the studio + the quality control was lacking + she chose the worst songs for singles!
I agree with you. I was thinking of the people who were disappointed with Orbit for MDNA. And i dont think this specific disco sound is what we are going to hear but obvz its too soon to say.Â
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36 minutes ago, Starman said:
Disco is very trendy among hipsters lately
Isnt Funky House nolonger a thing?Â
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Id say Avenatti for president. The Dems need an outsider ASAP. Someone with a brain, honesty and values. We all know people have lost trust in politicians. Anyone who talks against the system or the Washington elite seem to resonate more to the everyday audience. That was Trumps only strength but he doesnt have a brain, neither honesty and values/compassion.