VeronicaElectronica
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3 minutes ago, XXL said:
And?
She has lost seats to her party for her own mistakes and her own arrogance
The most obvious one was saying Brexit Means Brexit over and over for months without ever saying anything of actual substance at all
The second major slip was backtracking on the social care bill and being rightly hammered for it by Angus R, whom she obviously fears because he's able to unmask her
The third one was thinking she'd have an easy gamble in calling a snap general election simply because of the comfortable margin the Torys had with Labour, then
People obviously do not like her approach, pro Brexit or otherwise
ok. I was literally just mentioning a fact about the campaign.
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Fun fact: the campaign strategists in charge of Theresa May's campaign that led to her majority reduced to a hung parliament, also worked for the major Conservative party in Australia in the 2016 Australian Election, where the party's huge majority in parliament was reduced to just a one seat majority.
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14 minutes ago, Skin said:
Someone fill me in .....Just like the French election is this another blow to that hate filled nationalist movement we started to see spark up?
In a sense, yes. Europe seems to be winning against the movement, but America is far from out of the woods yet.
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While Theresa May resigning would be great in many ways, part of me thinks she should remain PM and be made to deal with the mess she has created. Plus 3 PMs in less than one year, the U.K. Would really be copying a page out of the Australian and Italian book of revolving Prime Ministers.
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6 hours ago, Ciccone's Cheeks said:
I'd love to say Roseanne is just seriously trolling/f'king around on purpose. Don't think so though. I truly believe she HAS completely flipped over the last few years and entered into bonkersville. Word is she's going blind so maybe she's on serious meds and has other medical and mental issues. Kind of sorta like what happened to Joan Rivers last year few years of her life. Just plain nasty, dark, and rarely 'funny'.
There's one specific interview from rambling hell where she totally lost me and turned me off for good along with many, many others. It's def. on You Tube and came out in/around a year before the election I believe. Dunno if she was in a manic stage, on serious drugs (maybe both) but she was almost incoherent, unlikable, unfunny, grating and abrasive ('traits' I used to basically love her for though lol). Just a bunch of super deep, bizarre random rants. Made like NO sense. So sad 'cause I still adore her show and loved her up until the last few years :/
Yeah exactly, but I don't think she's ever been the most stable person. I think all that fame really did affect her mentally, plus in the recent years she's had a number of medical issues. She made an amazing television show and that's what I'm going to remember her for.
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The country is so polarized, there is no such thing as a "non-divisive" person. No matter who the Democrats nominate will be hated. Even if it was Bernie. Hillary had very high ratings among a large swath of the electorate when she was SOS, but look what happened. All it takes is a Democrat to say "raise taxes on the wealthy, and give women the freedom to choose" and they are instantly hated by 47% of the country.
After Obama, I don't think there is anyone who can bring us together. All that's left is a great catastrophe to wake up the dumb asses or some major miracle of erasing Fox News as the brain-washing network of choice.
That said, I was once a huge Warren supporter but I do agree I don't know if she's got the chops right now. She's an outstanding Senator but too academia to be an inspiring leader. I don't see any strong Presidential candidates in the Democratic Party right now and it's alarming. I hate to say this, but we might be under GOP rule until 2024. Pretty sure Trump won't make it that long, but Pence will.
If Trump goes just after his second year in office, Pence is eligible to be President for up to 10 years.
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A centrist who is predicted to be an overwhelming favourite to win vs. a right wing leader who people give little chance of winning because of their views. France and the U.S. have different voting systems, but this sounds like an awfully familiar race.
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The government isn't a fucking enterprise.
You're all retarded.
You misunderstood me. I was saying that people who voted for him viewed him having business experience as being a substitute for political experience, rather than viewing him as having no experience. I agree that that government isn't an enterprise, but time and time again during the election all these voters were saying that his business qualifications made him qualified to deal with the economy, and to make deals with the politicians and other nations.
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Someone find the fountain of youth for Bernie STAT! I wish Bill Maher would run. Trump showed us you don't need a lick of government experience to become President so why not?
I mean....Howard Stern would probably be a less risker choice than Bill Maher, considering some of the views Maher has held. I'll also say this, while Trump has no government experience, he's had a lot of experience in business and in dealing with politicians.
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I'll be shocked if Bernie doesn't run again. Of course what he wants is going to be an uphill battle cause he will no doubt have to deal with a shit congress if elected.
I really like Bernie Sanders, but the Democrats won't grow their talent and bench if they keep nominating and electing senior citizens for leadership roles. If he were to win two terms he'd be 88 by the time he leaves office. I've really appreciated his defence of red state democrats because he brings a balanced perspective. I think a better idea would be if he advised and coached a much younger version of him to be candidate for President.
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The decimation of the democrats on a local level, in my opinion, will be looked at as the biggest stain of Obama's legacy. At least from a national standpoint. I will never understand the complacency and outright laziness to build the party up from the grassroots. Debbie Wassserman Shultz bares the burden of this as well. The fact that she was allowed to keep her job as head of the DNC for as long as she did is just absolutely criminal on every single level. History will not judge her well.
Tim Kaine also oversaw the massive 2010 midterm defeat when he was DNC chair at the time. Obama also had the opportunity to get rid of Debbie, but decided against it because it would be too much drama. People were so busy talking about the division in the Republican Party, that they ignored that massive electoral problems the Democrats have because they thought the electoral demographic advantage would be enough to take care of it.
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After she repeatedly said she would not call one
Coherent
Like with that National Insurance debacle
The fact that she said that she wouldn't call one in the past is meaningless because opportunities and situations arose that she previously did not foresee. On a more cunning level she caught the opposition off guard, but it's not her problem that the Labour Party is unfocused and not prepared to provide stable government. People can't complain about how Theresa May was unelected (despite the fact that people don't vote for the PM), and then complain when she does seek an election mandate. I've seen Prime Ministers not take advantage of similar opportunities before, and they always end up regretting it. So that's why it's smart politics.
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The Democratic Party needs to focus more on building talent within the party, instead of focusing on celebrities. I feel they're very reactive at the moment when they need a more proactive strategy to regain voters. The presidency is a small part and over the past 8 years the Democrats have been pretty negligible in helping elect Democrats on local and state levels.
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Will the remain vote for or against Theresa May? This election will be interesting.
It depends, with a lot of the remain vote coming from Labour areas, probably won't make a difference. The result would probably be the Conservatives increasing majorities in the seats they currently hold, while probably picking up some traditionally working class Labour seats. Jeremy Corbyn didn't really put up an enthusiastic fight to remain, so he probably can't really use that against her to its full effectiveness.
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Smart decision from Theresa May to call an election now because Labour will be heavily defeated. I can't imagine Jeremy Corbyn will last after the election and that's probably not a bad thing, for Labour's future as a political party.
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Obama's legacy may end up being the huge democrat wipeout under his 8 year presidency with these democrat losses under him:
House of Representatives (2009) 256 Seats - (2016) 188 Seats (-68)
Senate (2009) 58 Seats - (2016) 46 Seats (-12)
Governships (2009) 28 Governors - (2016) 18 Governors (-10)
Legislative Seats (2009) 4,086 Seats - (2016) 3,137 Seats (-949)
Chambers (2009) 60 Chambers - (2016) 31 (-29)
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16 hours ago, GOD said:
Trump didn't win.
Hillary lost. She lost to fucking Trump.
and people should accept the fact that she was a bad pick, but unfortunately all fingers are pointed on everybody except her.
She should have won by a landslide, but she didn't.
Actually, Trump did win. I really don't like the guy, but saying he "didn't win" is just allowing yourself to ignore the substantive reasons why he was elected that aren't just sexism and racism related. As the losing campaign, Hillary does need to take responsibility, but at the end of the day millions of people voted for her in the democratic primary which is why she was there in the first place. Could Bernie have beat Trump? Possibly. However, Bernie represents to a greater extent than Clinton, what people have been growing increasingly tired about with the political left. Then rise of right-wing ideology around the world shows this.
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CNN poll cross tabs moved from 24% R, 28%, 48% I polled from last poll to 32% R, 28%D, 40 I. Basically, not a reflection of the general electorate. It's like in 2012 when CNN released a poll with Romney +5 and it turned out they apparently got 70% of their poll from West Virgina. So essentially, CNN has a history of them not polling correctly in order to fit a narrative.
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New Washington post poll has Hillary Clinton ahead in Texas.
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NBC poll has her with +6.
I don't see him winning.. She already has 270+ pretty much locked. But why is there a sense of DT gaining momentum and HRC losing? Media's fault?
Just like in the Democratic primary, a lot of people have had to keep their support for her quiet. The fear caused by Bernie supporters and now Trump supporters has made people who support her be quiet in public and social media. People are afraid to be open with their support, but as seen in the Democratic primary, they will show up to vote.
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These national polls don't seemed to be translating into state polls. The national polls in the Democratic primary had a tied race, that was not apparent in the state polls. State polls were more accurate.
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Are we really going to discuss why Hillary, whose turning 70 next year, doesn't look as young as she did when she was 61.
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It's rather amazing that May has a 60+ lead as preferred PM. Surprisingly, she's the preferred PM amongst young people as well.
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It's more stepping away from any decision making role at the foundation so that there isn't any perception of conflict of interest. She did the same thing as Secretary of State.Then why cut ties if it's an amazing charity? Huh?
BREXIT / British Politics thread - cont
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Yeah that's exactly same stuff from the Conservative's campaign in Australia: "stable government", "innovation and agility", and worst of all "continuity and change".