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  1. Criminal of me to neglect True Blue from my previous post since that was my wedding song. So yes, I agree with you completely. But AC radio has been MUCH more kind to TB as I've heard that far more than I've ever heard WTG.
  2. Well that’s awesome. WTG was just as big and just as memorable as any of her 80s smashes for those who were around at the time. It was ALL OVER the radio when I was a kid. It was played just as much as LAV, CAC, MG, ITG, and PDP. Madonna, for whatever reasons, has personally neglected this song, Angel, Everybody, and Cherish which is why they seem “lesser”.
  3. P!nk: New album "Bland Trapeze"

    Really? 🙄 Did you laugh that hard when Madonna was yanked off stage?
  4. Funny you started this thread. I’ve always thought her vocals on this song were some of the best she did in the 00’s. This song, Bedtime Story, and Sky Fits Heaven back to back teleport me to another place entirely. So lush and gorgeous.
  5. P!nk: New album "Bland Trapeze"

    You don't? Why don't you put on some of their records. I'm not saying they didn't evolve, they did, but they've all stuck to basically the same formula they had since the beginning. Sure, U2 had Discotheque, Tina had her dance moment with 'When The Heartache Is Over'. But what did U2 do after that album, by their standards, flopped? They went right back to what they did best with All That You Can't Leave Behind. And can you please tell me how Bruce Spingsteen has EVER strayed far from his power rock sound? And Cher, well, has ALWAYS sounded like Cher regardless of what genre she did. Take Me Home Isn't a fair comparison because everyone from ducks to the Rolling Stones were incorporating disco into their sound. But, yes, I believe Cher has pretty much stayed with a similar formula with a different wig with everything she's done. Pink herself has never screamed she's this 'alt rock' pop princess rebel like that horrid little troll Avril Lavigne did. Now THERE'S a fake image if there ever was one. Try This was NOT revolutionary nor was it vastly different than Mizzunderstood, it just came out at the wrong time. A time when 50 Cent and rap was dominating. Even Britney was starting to fade. And to say that I'm Not Dead was some kind of sell out because Try This flopped is just not factually accurate because they weren't that different stylistically or in sound. At all. I'm Not Dead was carried over the finish line by a clever video for Stupid Girls and the album took off after that.
  6. I don't think it's HER worst song by any measure. Spanish Lesson would like to have raise his hand in protest. I think it's a WEAK song. It sounded clunky and unfinished and was really beneath BOTH of them. That's not to say I didn't gay scream when I watched the video and listened to it non stop when it came out. It's a total guilty pleasure.
  7. P!nk: New album "Bland Trapeze"

    I've been a staunch defender of Pink in this thread against the pretty baseless and lame arguments against her artistry and career. But I have to say, I'm not feeling this album as much as her previous efforts. There's something......cold about it. It lacks her trademark quirk and melodies and the songs seem to all bleed into one another. I don't think it's a bad record by any means, but it's certainly not one of her best. I was expecting a lot more since I thought What About Us was one of her strongest first singles since Get The Part Started. I still find the accusation that she's samey, boring, doesn't evolve, sticks the the same formula, such a hollow argument. I've said this before, but Stevie Nicks has milked her white witch/gypsy persona for 40 some years. And NO ONE ever accuses her of sticking to her script as a detriment. Tina Turner, Cher, and even rock bands such as U2 and Bruce Springsteen have been doing just about the SAME THING their entire careers as well. And guess what? They're some of the most successful touring acts of all time. It's no accident Pinks tour is selling out faster than just about any of her pop equals. I find it rich she came rolling out the exact same time as the Backstreet Boys, Christina, Britney, and the rest of the pop herd from the late 90's. And the's the ONLY one who can still command a tour that sells out. Good for her.
  8. Oh dear Lord, had Madonna been the one who's tit came flopping out at that SB halftime show, her response afterward would've been one of defiance. She would have OWNED that performance and clapped back at the hypocrisy of it all. She wouldn't have gone into damage control mode and released some pathetic apology video. If anything, she would've been the one to turn that entire situation on its head to actually BENEFIT her. That's where Janet went wrong. But then again, Janet it IS NOT Madonna in the least. While I adore her, I've never found her to be the most assertive woman in the business. Mainly because she's always had the Jackson name in her back pocket and hasn't needed to work nearly as hard as Madonna's had too. That whole situation was one big, disgusting, hypocritical, mess. It still angers me how she was raked across the coals for that.
  9. P!nk: New album "Bland Trapeze"

    I love this. And I love the lyric video.
  10. P!nk: New album "Bland Trapeze"

    Pink adores Madonna and has said so in multiple interviews. She doesn’t need to worship at her alter with every interview she does.
  11. Trump / US politics thread 🚽

    His response was brilliant.
  12. Gwen Stefani

    Even though I've raked her through the coals in this thread, I'll probably still check out her Christmas album. I'm a sucker for holiday albums. I whip out Tori Amo's Midwinter Graces EVERY SINGLE YEAR. No shame.
  13. Madonna Songs used in Movies and TV Shows

    Take a Bow being used in the series finale of Friends elevated the song for me. I know it sounds silly, but that show was such an integral part of my adolescence, and to hear one of my favorite Madonna songs end it was just too much.
  14. Gwen Stefani

    I thought it was fine but forgettable. Initially I enjoyed it, but it wore off pretty fast. The only songs I return back to are One More Summer, Settle Down, & Easy. The rest is a bunch of filler.
  15. Trump / US politics thread 🚽

    I think about this often. Not in a morbid sense, but I truly wonder how long he can continue his lifestyle and not drop dead from cardiac arrest. He's not healthy. He's out of shape. He's admitted to only sleeping like 3-4 hours a night. He eats fast food all the time. He doesn't exercise. He's constantly angry. I truly can't see him living past 80 years old. And maybe it's wishful thinking, but I honestly can't see him seeking another term out of sheer exhaustion. At least I hope not. I don't use the term 'HATE' to describe human beings, but I can say unequivocally, I truly hate him and what he's done to this country. He has, in the worst way, divided people on a level that has never been seen. One could even say it's almost brilliant in the fashion in which he's done it. But I despise everything he stands for, everything he says, and everything he's done as a human being. He's truly a deplorable.
  16. Oh I know she has some gems in the 00's. I love ALL of the songs you listed above and would add So Excited, Island Life and R&B Junkie But the albums as a whole were REALLY uneven.
  17. Gwen Stefani

    What a fall from grace she's had. I would have NEVER EVER expected someone who was so effortlessly cool for the first half of her career to become so completely boring and mundane. I could honestly care less about anything she does for the rest of her life. Which is TRAGIC because I held her in the upper echelons of pop and alternative back in the day. I don't know if it was leaving No Doubt, her divorce from Gavin, doing the Voice, or marrying that middle of the road country star, but it's as if she doesn't even care.
  18. The Velvet Rope turns 20 today. Easily her best album in my opinion. It took her nearly 20 years to release an album that was even close to it with Unbreakable. As for her not being inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame, her time will come. And yes, she IS more than deserving of it. She had one of the most successful streaks of any R&B/pop star in modern times. While I wouldn't put her on the same level as Madonna/Prince/Whitney/ or her brother, she certainly isn't too far behind them. Yes I know she wasn't a GLOBAL SUPERSTAR, but she was nipping at Madonna's heels more than any other female was in the 90's. I just wish she hadn't gone off the rails after that Super Bowl incident. Her output during the 00's really did destroy her career.
  19. Top 10 Madonna Music Videos

    My PERSONAL top 10 would be different than what I think her GREATEST top 10 videos are. So. I'll do two. PERSONAL FAVORITES: 1. Vogue 2. Music 3. Borderline 4. Beautiful Stranger 5. Living For Love 6. Hollywood 7. Frozen 8. Bedtime Story 9. You'll See 10. Rain HER TOP 10 GREATEST AND MOST IMPORTANT VIDEOS: 1. Like A Prayer 2. Express Yourself 3. Frozen 4. Erotica 5. Ray of Light 6. Take A Bow 7. Hung Up 8. Material Girl 9. Vogue 10. Like A Virgin
  20. Happy 35th Anniversary "Everybody"

    Everybody loves Everybody. I'll put this song on mixes and people will say 'Is this Madonna? I've never heard this!' and they always love it. It's JUST as good as Holiday, and on the right day, I would even say it's better. It TOTALLY captures that late 70's/early 80's gritty New York disco/new wave vibe. I never tire of this song. I JUST WISH SHE PLAYED IT ON TOUR MORE OFTEN. I can't believe she hasn't done it since the Girlie Show.
  21. This article summed up just about everything I've been thinking about why these female pop stars have been flopping left and right this year. With the exception of Katy, who's 'reinvention' isn't very drastic in the least, and who easily released the best mainstream pop album of 2017, I agree with everything they're saying here. There isn't anything organic about what any of these pop stars do anymore. It's all been done better by the greats that came before them. And when they flop or they don't maintain the success of their pervious work, they ALL play the victim card and point the finger at everyone else but themselves. Which sadly works with their rabid fan bases. I mean, how many times did we see Madonna or Prince crying on camera about how mean everyone is to them? Never. Which is why anyone who lived through 80's or at least has studied pop culture during that time looks at this current crop of shit and shakes their head in shame. I wish this article would've pointed out the abysmally forced reinventions of Christina Aguilera and Lady Gaga. Especially Gaga. I know the album was released last year, but she's tried to maintain her shameful Americana folky persona throughout most of this year. It's ridiculous and embarrassing on so many levels. There's an article in the Pink thread where she talks about how she was never as popular as Britney or Christina. And she's right. But she's ALWAYS been more consistent with her musical output than either of them or anyone else in the last 20 years. She's also come across as far more authentic as well, which is why she's maintained a pretty successful career without any flops besides the criminally underrated Try This. I know she's gets derided for being too 'samey' and for her acrobatic act on tour, but you know what, she's found a formula that works, keeps her head out of the media drama, works her ass off, and it's paid off for her. It's tragic to me that female pop stars of the future who grew up with Taylor or Gaga may actually look to them as a model in which they base their careers upon. I just can't imagine the kind of shit to come out of pop music, I'd like to be optimistic, but I truly don't see things getting better within the industry when it comes to pop stars. I'll continue to just listen to those under the radar and will more than likely never, ever go back mainstream pop divas ever again. Sad.
  22. Ranking Madonna's 35 best singles

    This is a pretty essential list. I do agree that WIFLFAG is ranked a tad too high. And it's shameful Angel isn't on it.
  23. I would agree 100% with those top 3. All of them present a different kind “sexiness” if you will. Although I find Wiked Game a sexier song than video. And I find Kiss a sexier video than song. Whereas Madonna blended both together brilliantly.
  24. Trump / US politics thread 🚽

    This entire kneeling during the National Anthem 'controversy' is just.... I don't know if I have the words to describe it. To see certain individuals on my social media completely UP IN ARMS over these men peacefully protesting injustice in this country, while they were completely mute when Trump said John fucking McCain wasn't a war hero because he was captured is the absolute height of the tribal like politics that he's ushered in. You can not, absolutely CAN NOT, say these NFL players are disrespecting our country and our flag and turn around and support this president. It doesn't work that way, you flag waving, simple minded, fucks.
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