Jazzy Jan

. That giff says it all perfectly

^ They are so repulsive. Both him and his son. Why is he always going to rallies, preaching garbage and lies, inciting hatred and making idiotic speeches to his rabid followers ? He is the President and should be instead running the country and doing his job. Instead of swanning around at rallies with his cult of morons cheering him on. He makes Americians look so stupid and offensive. I feel sorry for the people that hate him , having an offensive, stupid buffoon representing them.

Yes, she has his measure completely.

He is such a revolting person. His tweets are putrid. Have to say though that he has no comeback for Nancy Pelosi. He generally is wary of her and I love her for that.

it is a real eccentric type of Eurovision entry. Kate is a trained opera singer and is using that side of her voice in force. I imagine they will do a lot more work on the staging for Eurovision.

For sure !

Always love Sweden's entrants. They are always in it to win it and I love that.

Go Kate - so over the top but something different for Australia.

Kind of snobbish attitude from the UK music industry though. Only needs someone successful to go there, represent the UK proudly and change the perception.

God he is sick. Praising up a man who has his own people murdered and has been unstable and threatening for years. Trump loves dictators of other countries when it suits him. Bringing up economics and ignoring human rights - just shocking.

Yes. Having pride in your country is wonderful but seeing Trump saying America is the greatest country ever and the parliament chanting" USA USA " is cringe worthy. I hate it too when Australians do it with that ghastly " Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi" that they are doing at every sporting event now - even when an Australian is playing tennis at grand slams around the world. Have pride in your country, sing traditional songs at national events, respect your anthem etc - all great. But chanting and gloating about how your country is the best in the world - just a turn off. Especially in a political event and occasion like this.

I know Superbowl is not our national sport but I must say this has been the least talked about Half time show I have seen for years. Just no buzz, talk or even analysis of it. I really am only seeing it and reading about it on this forum. In other years, saw stacks of reviews, articles and comments about whoever was appearing. That has been happening since Madonna made it on our front page of the newspaper the day after the Superbowl when she performed. I don't dislike Maroon 5 and like a couple of their songs but they just don't seem like a big time group to perform in such a huge setting.

Diana Ross is a true superstar. Wonderful singer, wonderful performer, great stage craft and deserves so much respect and praise. Her music with the Supremes and solo has been magical since the very beginning.

Maroon 5 are OK. Their music is OK. Adam has a grating voice and is always taking his shirt off. Basically what they always do.

Kylie says nothing about anything. She does not ever give an opinion or get a message across. Her views on gay marriage equality - well she admitted she just " went along" with what her ex boyfriend said after it got passed. Her voice is nasal and she can't dance to save herself. Got a recording contract because she was Charlene in Neighbours. Can't believe any Madonna fan can even put her in the same class. So many do though.

Love Nancy ! Does anyone else find those chanting " USA USA USA " like they are at a world sporting event so annoying and arrogant ?

I spoke with a friend yesterday who is a huge MJ fan. He grew up with him being his first idol and also loves Madonna and Prince. MJ is the one he loves the most though. Said that Off the Wall is still his favourite album of all time. We discussed the MJ case and he told me straight out that he thought he could never see this documentary because he could not stand the thought of MJ sexually abusing children because he thought it was a kind of betrayal of his childhood. Said he wanted to be an ostrich with his head in the sand and felt awful and wrong thinking like that. Also could not explain why he had young boys over for sleep overs and just basically said it was hard for him to talk about. Was a very sad kind of conversation because I could completely see he was conflicted. I don't think anyone wants to see their idol in a bad light and sexual abuse of children is the worst thing possible to entertain the thought of. Reminds me a lot of another guy I worked with who idolized Lance Armstrong. He used to tell me time and time again how inspiring Lance was as both he and his father had been through cancer, how people were trying to destroy Lance and there was never any proper evidence of him being a drug cheat. Always argued his innocence with everyone and said that others were jealous and lying. When it finally was confirmed that Armstrong was a drug cheat after years of denial and years of his fans defending him, I actually felt sorry for him. He was devastated beyond belief. I still find it difficult to see the appeal of MJ as a person - not talking of the appeal of him as an entertainer. I watched the video clip above of his police interview and he was creepy, arrogant, stupid and dismissive. The fact too that he was always either playing a victim or wanting everyone to worship him like a God. His strange behaviour with having children without wanting the mothers to be around is also quite sickening. I was thinking of how I would react if Madonna appeared like that in a police interview. I would be horrified and so disappointed. I don't know how fans of MJ could watch that video, watch the Martin Bashir doco and still defend him as a person.

I notice all the time how many people treat elderly people with disdain and ridicule. In the jobs I have been in, elderly people are often treated like second class citizens and nuisances which is dreadful.

@Nonoka. I did not word my last post properly. What I was inferring too that was Jimmy Saville did have complaints made against him to the police while alive. No action was taken. I think that if he was taken to trial while alive, he could easily have been found not guilty as people demand more than victim's testimonies etc, no matter how many said the same thing. Also with brilliant defence lawyers who can make victims sound as horrible as possible to discredit them completely. Sad but true. What I meant by MJ being similar. Both famous, both very wealthy, both surrounded themselves with children, both behaved eccentrically and oddly and both praised as loving children and doing things for charity etc.

One thing that I find very sad though is the way people are just dismissing everything accusers say about MJ. Online, his fans are all viciously attacking everyone that has spoken out about MJ and are painting him as this forever victim. To them, the fact he has children in his bed is a sign of how great his love for children were etc. NOT talking about people on this forum as nobody here has said they think having under-age boys in his bed is OK. Different story elsewhere though with MJ fans online completely defending him about it. That behaviour is being used by MJ fans as being nothing wrong and a sign of his Peter Pan childhood etc. RE Jimmy Saville, I see so many similarities. Jimmy was never charged with sexual abuse while he was alive, There were complaints made and investigations but as so many child abuse cases, no concrete evidence or proof - as what people now demand. Basically all the children and women sexually abused in hospitals etc by Saville were not listened to or taken seriously when he was alive. People are now demanding concrete proof about MJ and therefore saying he is innocent. Which brings back the whole subject of proof. Not all sexual abusers have evidence of their crimes hidden away. Look at all of the Priests etc. that have abused children. They did not keep evidence of their crimes. It was the victims talking about it - many were never believed earlier. I think that is something that people are not looking at. Children have said that MJ abused them. Just as victims of Jimmy Saville and victims of religious institutions said they were abused. Children can and have on numerous occasions and many cases, defended their abuser originally. Why everyone bringing up that the victims must be now lying because they defended him earlier is a dangerous thing to base finding a sexual abuser innocent. Just think about why an adult man would surround himself with young children. I think the answer there is more than obvious.

Regarding the talking of the " Not guilty" verdict as reason to say that Jackson was innocent. How many times have we seen people be found " not guilty" who are in fact guilty. Happens so often and will always happen. The judge even tells the jury before every trail that if there is any hint of doubt in their mind, they must deliver a " not guilty" verdict. OJ Simpson, Robert Durnst - just 2 cases for example - were found not guilty in court. Nobody can ever find a reason concrete enough why MJ wanted to have boys over for sleep overs in his bed and I will never buy that it is a natural thing that a man does to recapture childhood. If so, then we must excuse every adult who is a teacher, mentor, pastor etc or any celebrity who decides to have young kids over who are sleeping in their bed. Will always think that MJ was incredibly creepy around children and find this whole " helping children' and surrounding himself with young boys awful and inappropriate. Also find this whole way he always went about playing a victim and talking of the childhood he never had as a pitiful, clever and manipulative way to excuse everything. Also interesting that when the clip shown on the documentary of him holding hands with a young boy and talking about sleep overs and innocent love of children etc, more people were annoyed and outraged at Martin Bashir for daring to show that footage of MJ talking and holding hands with a boy then they were of MJ himself opening saying it. Will never understand that. He always has been portrayed as a perpetual victim to so many and always will. Don't want to keep debating with members on the forum that I like a lot over our different views on MJ so will leave it there and agree to disagree.

Why are people claiming that this stuff was adult orientated when a lot of it was naked photos and books of young boys ? Also, as people that claim he was innocent because they say he was either asexual and had no interest in sex etc or was like a child with no concept of sexuality, well how then can it be explained about him him owning so much sexual material ? He is excused by people claiming he either was asexual and a child in a man's body ( as so many use to prove his innocence and excuse him having sleepovers in his bed with young boys ) or he was someone he has sexual urges etc which him owning this material would suggest.

She is hilarious - Miriam Margolyes on Brexit - go to 3.19

It is obvious that the Tory Party is extreme right wing. Anybody even slightly left of centre that I read about from the UK drums that home repeatedly. The fact the opposition in England is so moderate gives them no opposition either. You are right too about the rest of the world laughing. I only have to watch our news here and also political correspondents from the UK who all groan about Brexit and talk of the absolute mess it is.

Yes. His ignorance is just another appalling thing about him. Global warming does affect weather and makes weather more extreme - heat and cold. Scientists have explained it time and time again but here is the President of the United States, talking like an uneducated idiot who think global warming is only about excessive hot temperatures. Well, he is talking like an uneducated idiot - because he is one. I don't get why religious people love Trump ? If they love Jesus etc - surely they would see he preaches everything Jesus did not. Does not look after the poor and mocks people. He is a serial womaniser, has no compassion for people, puts money before people. The list goes on and on. Yet they are treating him like the second coming. So weird.