drunkbysix

January 22, 2017

3 minutes ago, Nessie said:

Exactly. So many members here are secretly wishing for censorship that it's becoming really off-putting to engage on any discussion. People have to understand that different point of views are essential for a civilized society, especially in a political section of a very wide forum full of people of different backgrounds and nationalities.

So people can troll and be offensive and it's ok, and if we put them in check that would be censorship?

January 22, 2017

1 hour ago, Sloane said:

A lot of ppl wanting to go to the inaugaration yesterday were blocked by protestors. Plus would you go down to an area where they are burning cars and smashing windows???

On the reverse, Trump supporters didn't block the protestors today.

........

there seems to be NOTHING regarding trump that is negative in your eyes.

beside the fact that he had one of the lowest turn outs for an inaguration ever...he Had someone LIE on national television and tell the world that he had the biggest turn out for an inaguration ever.

Also, the TV viewings for him were about close to 8 million less than obamas in 2009. His numbers for attendance were lower than both the 2009 and 2013 inaugurations of Obama. These are FACTS.

you really think that people felt they were in so much "danger" that they couldn't make it to see trump? That those thousands of people just gave up because protestors were "blocking" them? I trust you know how ridiculous that sounds.

January 21, 2017

20 minutes ago, spazz said:

Only the Americans gays who cry for Obama because he legalized same sex marriage & the latins who work undercover & take less salary amount than American citizens.

There's no use in these threads.

January 21, 2017

5 hours ago, spazz said:

Congratulations Pud 🎁🎉👏🏻🎁🌺🎷

Trump era will be definitely better than hybrid obama dark days of misery.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/obama-leaves-legacy-of-extraordinary-accomplishments-858759747686

January 19, 2017

1 minute ago, Pud Whacker said:

BITTER THEREFORE BLOCKED!

BYE!!!

You used to be so much better than this. I don't know what happened to you truly and honestly. You're one of the reasons that ultimately led me to the decision of deleting my madonnanation account.

It was great while it lasted. See you guys. I'm seriously done here. Last straw

January 19, 2017

1 minute ago, Pud Whacker said:

You want to argue and fight, it seems

This is an appreciation thread of FLOTUS MELANIA.

I think she's beautiful and fun. So if you want me to block you continue with your horse crap. Or just join THE APPRECIATION!

Like I said, you didn't JOIN the appreciation of Hilary Clinton so block me all you want, I'll keep responding and there's nothing you can do about it

you two are such HYPOCRITES. You can do what YOU want but when it comes to something you don't like, everyone has to shut up and be fine with your trolling

January 19, 2017

4 minutes ago, spazz said:

Its not degrading people of black color , as pud said there is nothing racist about it. Thanks.

It may not degrade black people but it's still fucking stupid

January 19, 2017

5 minutes ago, spazz said:

Michelle obama lacks all that

She lacks all of that why? What has she done wrong except exist? lol you're sooooo biased and it's sickening. Michelle Obama has literally done nothing wrong in the eight years she's been by obamas side. She has no power to intervene in any circumstances regarding the presidency or the choices he makes. You sound ignorant

January 19, 2017

19 minutes ago, spazz said:

How? It isnt ,they didn't portray her as a monkey

Its a funny meme.

A funny meme that portrays Michelle as an overly muscular ugly woman and melinia as her gorgeous substitute

im not laughing, sorry and if you guys can derail the Hilary thread I can say what I want in your threads

why would you want a plagiarist in the White House anyway?

January 19, 2017

10 minutes ago, spazz said:

The Queen has arrived to take her throne

This feels low key racist.

January 19, 2017

I love if she'd stay out the White House!

January 12, 2017

5 minutes ago, Kim said:

Is there really any need for that? Try and respond in a respectful way,

Subtly, this person is insulting my views trying to say what I think is stupid and IM stupid. When I posted that post I didn't call out anybody in particular, I appreciate all of you here honestly, but she started it

January 12, 2017

8 hours ago, Jaz said:

Your kind of thinking led to Trump winning in 2016. God help us all if we have this crap every 4 fucking years of the Presidential cycle.

Fuck you.

January 10, 2017

2 minutes ago, Pud Whacker said:

You cannot be racist against a white person, white people cannot and never will experience racism. White people ARENT SYSTEMATICALLY OPPRESSED. you can be discriminatory and or pregidous against a white person, but YOU CANNOT BE RACIST AGAINST A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN ANY WAY HELD BACK BY THE SYSTEM.

Don't fucking call me stupid. You're the stupid one for not getting what I said, and if you're offended oh the fuck well!

You know what pud? You won ok. I lose. I'm wrong. I'm ignorant. I make no sense. My opinion is stupid. I'm hitler. You're sisn't. You got it.

January 10, 2017

5 minutes ago, Pud Whacker said:

i compared your SCREAMING your RHETORIC to hitler.

edit: but come to think of it, Jews were the first slaves and had the holocaust. was that racism?

I still don't want to be compared to him. At all.

January 10, 2017

18 minutes ago, Crystal Coffin said:

I'm a Malay, as far from being a white person as possible. And I do stick to the fact that anyone CAN be racist to anybody. No fucking exceptions. This whole "white people can never experience racism" thing is very much a stupid SJW-brigade whining crap, it's shit.

1) Racism = privilege + power

In order to be racist, you need to possess two traits. The first is privilege: A structural, institutional, and social advantage. White people occupy positions of racial privilege, even when they are disadvantaged in other ways. White women, for example, consistently make morethan black women, because they benefit from racial attitudes. Furthermore, you also have to have power: the ability, backed up by society, to be a strong social influencer, with greater leeway when it comes to what you do, where, and how.

For instance, white people benefit from privilege and power when they aren’t arrested for drug crimes at disproportionate rates, while black people experience racism when they’re arrested, and sentenced, for the same crimes. This reflects a racialized power imbalance in the justice system. It’s about the privilege and power of white offenders (less likely to be racially profiled, more likely to have strong legal representation, more likely to be able to talk police officers out of an arrest) and the lack of social status for black offenders.

People of color talking about white people don’t occupy positions of privilege or power. Therefore, they cannot be racist. Racism is structural, not personal.

2) Anger is a legitimate response to oppression.

When “reverse racism” is flung around, it’s often in response to angry language, to protests, to fights for equality. People of color have been pushing back on privilege and power for a long time. Many of them are understandably pretty tired of it. Unsurprisingly, some aren’t interested in moderating their tone for a white audience. That means that sometimes they use strong language, out of frustration, rage, or to make a heavy impact on observers. Still not reverse racism.

More importantly, insisting that people of color need to be nice about the way they talk about racism is, in fact, racist: It suggests that, for example, “angry black women” don’t merit social attention, because they’re being unreasonable.

3) Attempts to rectify systemic injustices are not examples of reverse racism.

One of the most common pieces of evidence used as “proof” of reverse racism is that of affirmative action and minority admissions at colleges, universities, and some companies. The argument goes that people of color are stealing positions and jobs away from better or equally qualified white people.

This is not the case. The problem is that generations of injustice have resulted in underrepresentation of people of color in these settings, and the goal of affirmative action and related initiatives is to ensure that they aren’t harmed by racial bias in admissions and hiring decisions. People of color aren’t admitted or hired “over white people.” They’re considered equally, with an eye to the fact that subconscious bias may be influencing decisions made by people in power, who are, you guessed it, often white.

“White folks will tell me time and time again that Affirmative Action is ‘unfair,’” writes Jamie Utt, a diversity and inclusion consultant and sexual violence prevention educator, “because it discriminates against White people. What the term ‘fair’ assumes here, though, is that we live in a society where there’s an equal playing field for all students, regardless of race or wealth.” Addressing these injustices is intended to give people of color more opportunities, and to ensure that future generations won’t face the same imbalances current generations do.

4) Having spaces set aside for people of color is not racist.

Whites are often resentful of clubs, organizations, and groups focused on people of a specific race, with membership closed to people who are not members of that racial community. The claim goes that such groups segregate and discriminate; after all, if members of those minorities cared so much about racism, they’d open their membership to all, right?

Josh Odam writes in the Daily Collegian, “One of my favorite examples of such a mentality is this: It’s unfair that black students have a Black Student Union when white students do not. To put it simply, the University of Massachusetts is a White Student Union.”

But it’s about more than that. It’s not just that every public space is open to white people, but that white people have an expectation that every private space should be open to them, too. Some conversations and community events need to take place behind closed doors. People of color may need to have sensitive conversations about discrimination, racism, and their lived experiences that are difficult to have when they are surrounded by white observers or people who talk over them. Such spaces provide a medium for doing so, just as members of the LGBTQ community use retreat spaces, and women join women-only organizations and groups for mutual support.

5) White people are not oppressed.

The history of the oppression of people of color by the West, and, by extension, white people, spans centuries. Africans were enslaved and brought to the New World, where European colonialists stole land from Indigenous people. Colonies across the Global South brought untold wealth into the coffers of Europe, with the low, low cost of suffering for native populations.

Today, we’re still living with the legacies of colonialism: In the United States, the black community is dealing with the aftermath of slavery and the poverty and systemic prejudice it left behind. In many African nations, the collapse of former colonies left governments in shambles and unable to support themselves. In Australia, indigenous people struggle with a high poverty rate and low access to health care.

White people, in contrast with people of color, do not experience systemic discrimination that makes it difficult to find and hold jobs, access housing, get health care, receive a fair treatment in the justice system, and more. When it comes to social disparities, they’re the ones consuming and receiving the bulk of the resources; in just one example, black women in the U.S. are more likely to die from breast cancer due to delayed diagnosis. That’s the result of racism within the medical system.

Despite the belief stated by some white people that they are more oppressed than people of color, their claims don’t bear out when looking at social metrics like statistical representation in the justice system, poverty, educational achievement, and unemployment rates.

6) Prejudice and racism are not the same thing.

Some people of color may view whites prejudicially; no wonder, given the interactions of racism in society. Anyone can believe in stereotypes or hold ideas about members of other groups that are not entirely accurate.

However, being, and behaving, prejudicially isn’t the same thing as racism, especially when such prejudice punches up, not down. As Justin Simien of Dear White People puts it, “Prejudice and racism are different. A joke about white people dancing has no impact on the lives of average white people, whereas jokes about black people and reinforcing stereotypes about black people do have an impact on the lives of everyday black people.”

7) Hard truths aren’t racist—they’re just hard to hear.

Making a racist statement is a manifestation of racist culture; being “mean” isn’t. For whites, it can be difficult to be confronted with the reality of racism, and with comments from people of color about how privilege and power operate. It’s tempting to take such comments personally and to insist that people of color are being “mean,” which is often a hop, skip, and a jump away from an accusation of reverse racism.

In this case, the goal is often to invalidate the points made. If someone is being racist, surely her comments can be dismissed instead of taken seriously. Thus, a white person uncomfortable with a racialized conversation may claim that it’s reverse racist in order to escape the conversation, or escape her own role in racist power dynamics.

On the Internet, where such conversations fly by at lightning speed and often get heated, accusations of reverse racism often come in hot and heavy. It’s worth taking a moment to back up and hit those commenters with a healthy dose of truth serum.

January 10, 2017

27 minutes ago, Pud Whacker said:

no, youre screaming and yelling it like hitler was. and putting a punctuation mark at the end with no room for debate.

No I'm not, don't compare me to hitler in any way shape or form

January 10, 2017

Just now, Pud Whacker said:

you've already defined your version of racism. i deemed it ignorant.

racism is one race hating another. thinking theyre better than another.

So defining racism as a tool of systematic oppression is ignorant?

and if that's simply racism, why do we have words such as prejudice and discrimination which basically is the same thing?

January 10, 2017

Just now, Pud Whacker said:

im glad you have your own definition of racism. it seems everybody does, these days. and thats why were in a big fucking mess.

I didn't mean to offend anyone, really. I'm not a white people hater, I'm not prejudice or discriminatory towards them either. I just feel like the definition of racism is watered down, it involves more than what Webster's lists it as. When you talk about racism, you have no choice but to also talk about oppression. It's not that simple

January 10, 2017

49 minutes ago, Pud Whacker said:

i wont call you stupid, per your request. i will just settle on IGNORANT.

My definition of racism involves and goes hand and hand with systematic oppression, which white people cannot and will never experience. Which is why I explained why I believe you cannot be racist towards a white person. If you think my opinion is ignorant, then that's your opinion.

January 10, 2017

You cannot be racist against a white person, white people cannot and never will experience racism. White people ARENT SYSTEMATICALLY OPPRESSED. you can be discriminatory and or pregidous against a white person, but YOU CANNOT BE RACIST AGAINST A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN ANY WAY HELD BACK BY THE SYSTEM.

Don't fucking call me stupid. You're the stupid one for not getting what I said, and if you're offended oh the fuck well!

January 10, 2017

30 minutes ago, Jaz said:

So stupid. So utterly fucking stupid.

When will people learn?

Are you saying that my post was stupid?

January 7, 2017

4 hours ago, billiejean said:

"The behaviour is inexcusable, but..."

Don't you see how the BUT is #problematic. The "but" and the continued talk of how white people do things may not be intentional but make the event of this boy being kidnapped seem EXCUSABLE.

You are accusing me of doing 'the most' (most what?) for expressing my views on a Madonna forum in regards to the social justice liberal Don Lemon discussion (I think the woman was Simone Saunders?) types who had the audacity to downplay this as just misguided kids, or Shaun King who is apparently the king of justice for race relations, who said he won't tweet about it because it's done and over and used his article to further go on about how black people are victims and how Donald Trump was accused of rape. He even mentioned the horrific murder of Emmet Till. So what is it? A tally? White people being attacked doesn't matter too much because, well, black people suffer more? Oh, and also because Trump is president? This sort of shoulder shrug from those with the ability to reach others is not how to soothe race relations.

But it's the predicted reaction all around sadly, somewhat similar to the past few pages in this thread, it has gone from this boy being attacked to how racist America is to blacks and minorities and how Trump is awful. And now people who are pointing out the lack of reaction or the lack of willingness to call it was it is are being called racist. I guess we should just read the story and move on, cause like tumblr says, white people can't be victims, only those with 'all the power' can be racist - a notion I do not agree with. I think this notion that tumblr types keep slinging around is dangerous really, racism is racism, the world is bigger than white or black American race relations, to say only one type of people can be racist to others is wrong and will lead to more of these things occurring. We can not keep dividing people with this rhetoric.

Saying this is a disgusting vile racist hate crime doesn't downplay the atrocities black people have faced or do face in America. You don't go against the narrative of justice for black people to say this was an awful EVIL attack. Don Lemon somehow couldn't bring himself to do it though, he stopped someone from calling it evil on his show. That is a problem, the media should be reporting all of these things equally. We don't stop racial tension this way, it causes more of it if anything. If race relations are at all to be fixed we need not make excuses for ANYONE, whether the excuses are subliminal or not.

This is now a non story anyway, yesterdays news, who cares? People have moved on from the 12 hours of Twitter reactions to it. Thankfully nothing hysterical occurred due to it.

It's not excusing anyone I'm just telling the truth. I'm not referring to you, I'm referring to those white people who try to justify their racist rhetoric with crimes like these

January 6, 2017

It really seems like white people wait for something like this to happen so they can use it to bash the left, and cry "HYPOCRISY!" And it's awfully sad. This behavior is inexcusable, but there are HUNDREDS of hate crimes that happen against black people, like THESE http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/133031243-story every day that are swept under the rug, not covered and the people who do it get away with it. It annoys me so much that crimes like this one are used by some white people as ultimately an excuse to be racist. They can't wait to call these black people thugs and cry about how racism against them exist (which is IMPOSSIBLE) Violence is VIOLENCE. Hate is HATE. It has no boundaries and it's not discriminatory. If you're using this crime to condemn anybody but the people involved, you're doing the MOST

December 9, 2016

3 minutes ago, tumbleweedt said:

Cheer up there, old boy! Just having a laugh. #eyesnotfromflash

Why does she always look like she's struggling to see somebody in the distance

Profiles

Forums

Posts posted by drunkbysix