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And many could see this inevitable conclusion 20 years ago. Unless we stay forever, this was always going to be the outcome. The conflict NEVER ends in the middle east, we were just a complication in the middle of it all. The US needs to stay out of everyone's damn business.......we are BARELY keeping our own Democracy together, time to focus on THAT. My heart hurts for the poor Afghani people though during this time. Like you said, it's heartbreaking to think back at all the lives lost over the past 20 years, including the American soldiers. Not to sound cold but it just all seems so pointless and avoidable.

Trump never gave anyone a chance to give him a chance. He hit the ground running with his lies, crimes and bullshit from day one. To put it as kindly as possible, let's just say he never "grew into" his POTUS title. THAT is putting it mildly. Newsmax, Fox and the rest of his "cult" can suckle his baby dick all they want......doesn't matter, this man will ABSOLUTELY go down as the worst president this country has ever seen. He started as an inexperienced goofball and ended it as a main instigator for a domestic terror attack with the intent to prevent the certification of our election. Now, just need for Senate to come through on the upcoming impeachment trials. This country needs an "insurance policy" of sorts that this vile prick can NEVER run for office again. Then of course there are the dozens of OTHER lawsuits that have been waiting in the wings for him as soon as he was out of office. So, he'll be a busy man in his post POTUS life. Hopefully we'll see plenty of humiliations, bankruptcies or even jail time for him in the upcoming months/years.

So fucking happy right now!! FINALLY that long 4 yr nightmare is over.

Thank you Jazzy! Likewise to you! Like you say, it is horrible to see those you care for that were once "normal" become completely brainwashed and live in an alternate reality. I find it baffling that even you, experience this and you're basically a world away from me. How one earth do Aussies get on board with this? Seems to be such the antithesis of the great things I hear about Oz. Not suggesting that it's reflection of the majority of the people there but still, just bizarre that Trump's cult-like pull really does span across the world. I try to be an optimistic person for the most part but I just don't know where we go from here. How do you convince practically half of the country that an election they STRONGLY feel was stolen, was completely legit? If 60+ state court cases thrown out (many by Trump appointed judges), Attorney General, head of Cyber Securities and 2 Supreme Court rejections don't convince them, then I don't think anything can. I'm very happy Joe/Kamala are going to be at the helm in less than a week now but I absolutely do NOT envy them in any way. They have a long, hard, dare I say almost impossible task ahead of them.

I feel like the ones that switched from Trump to Biden in 2020 get it. From what I see though, the ones that supported him in 2020, even despite the Capitol attack still support him. His most ardent of supporters seem to have doubled down and love him more than ever. The more I see and read, it seems they TRULY believe he's some sort of savior sent to start a revolution. It's utterly terrifying to me. With that said, I personally do not know many Trump supporters.....the ones I do know, I've distanced myself from these past few months especially. I will say, I talked to a friend of mine the night the election was called, a long time friend of nearly 20 yrs and it's like a different person now. It's so very sad and disturbing to me. This is a person that voted for Obama both times and even prior to that was always a very sensible person. She has totally drank the Kool Aid now though.....an aunt of mine is the same way. Completely unrecognizable from the woman she used to be.

The "right" is already twisting this and saying it was Antifa that infiltrated the "peaceful" protest and did this. Never mind the fact that Trumpers have been openly planning and bragging about a "big event" on 1/6 for at least the past month (well, since at least Good Harbor Day back in Dec....maybe even before that). They ARE twisted so of course they will twist anything and everything to deflect blame from themselves. Had there been no deaths, make no mistake, they would be BRAGGING about this.....and some still are. There absolutely MUST be consequences for this. As lovely as it is to think we only have 10 days left of having this TERRORIST in the White House and then we can just inaugurate Biden and move onward and upward, this is too serious for that. This can't be forgotten or swept under the rug like ALL of their other crimes these past 4 yrs. The President Of The United States encouraged and emboldened a TERRORIST ATTACK at THE CAPITOL in order to stop the certification of a LEGITIMATE, CLEAN election. If there is ZERO accountability for this, the NEXT insane fucker that comes along is going to have it A LOT easier and God knows what could happen. A message HAS to be sent that this will not stand. Banning him from social media platforms is great and all but we need legal consequences as well. If he's impeached, he can never run for office again. That alone makes that option worth it to me, even if the impeachment process doesn't end until after Biden is already in office. Once he's impeached, he and his vile family and the vile Retrumplican enablers need to have legal action taken against them. Someone needs to go to jail. And in regard to these terrorist Retrumplican pussies saying their "rights" are being infringed upon because of social media platforms banning, these are companies, businesses.....they can do whatever they fuck they want. Just like if someone steps into a locally owned restaurant and starts screaming a bunch of toxic rhetoric and the owner bans them from coming back, that's the right of the business owner. Trump and the rest of his fucked up little gang can stand on a street corner, create their own platform etc to spew their lies, there's no law stopping them from doing that so they really they can "stand back" and shut the fuck up with this whining about "my rights, my rights, my freedom of speech".

I do get this argument and it is soooooooo frustrating to witness this and have basically nobody speak up. What are they to do though really? If they raise a stink then they will be portrayed as the crazy ones. The right LOVES to do that with any little amount of "noise" the left makes. Idk.....I do think in the long run, the approach Biden is taking is going to be the perfect antidote to the insanity of the last four yrs. He's acting like a PRESIDENT should act and for the most part is basically ignoring this little theater piece the right is putting on and starting to tackle and discuss the REAL issues that are plaguing us at the moment, number one being this massive spike in COVID. It's unbelievable that this far into the pandemic we are probably within the next couple months going to reach our "peak".

BINGO! This right here. Talking to people I know that support him always mention the abortion thing as one of the main reasons of their continued support......and mind you I know for a fact some of these people have had abortions themselves. It's truly unreal to me...this cult is fucking sick.

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It's very frightening. Trying to enjoy the moment, although it's hard with this "fraud election" stink cloud hanging over (as fake as it all is). I can't help but wonder about the future though. As has been mentioned in the thread already, it worries me to think that there could be someone even worse than Trump that comes along in 2024 or beyond.

FUCK YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG guys we did it!! We did what we thought would be impossible and got that FUCKER OUT!! I literally have tears of joy right now. Step one in what is going to be a very very long process.

It really prob could've been called yesterday for Biden and prob under more "normal" circumstances it would've been. As torturous as it is to wait through this process though I think it's good that they're making sure to count every vote until it becomes ABSOLUTELY mathematically impossible for Trump to win. Dot all their I's and cross all their T's because Team Trump and the remaining Republicans that are standing by him are going to do ANYTHING they can to contest this. So, let's have no mistakes that they can't come back and throw in our face. I mean, yes, they will say it's rigged and a fraud no matter what but if everything is done by the book and meticulously, there's only so much they can do. Now that some of the "who's gonna win" anxiety is dying down very very slightly, I have a new anxiety......this man is STILL president for 2+ months, wtf is he gonna do in that time. A morally bankrupt, selfish narcissist can do a lot of damage in that amount of time. He will have NOTHING to lose at that point. He's DEFINITELY a "if this ship is sinking, I'm taking ya all with me" kinda guy. We shall see!

UP UP UP!!!

I don't know whether to laugh, be afraid, smh or just feel pity for these sad, desperate people. These people are TOTALLY GONE. Idk how they're going to handle this when it's official.

I hope one day we'll have her as prez. This woman is amazing!!